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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Omegaxicor" data-source="post: 6005592" data-attributes="member: 95351">I see what you mean but you seem to misunderstand a key point (and I'm not quite sure what you mean by Gods being arrogant means the world is a Horrible world) the Good gods are not evil they are good but with their power the "mortals" become small and as [MENTION=21432]Samloyal23[/MENTION] said "Gods typically assume mortals should be grateful for any chance to serve them or interact with them, no matter how perilous it may be..." which IS slightly darker than I would have put it but it is the basic premise, not caring about mortals is not evil if you are a god and ALL gods are like that Good/Evil/Neutral (except maybe Pelor since he has Caring as part of his portfolio but wanting his followers to care and caring himself are two different things)I think our difference of opinion is based on the fact you believe (or rather in your games) Heironeous was a mortal until he ascended to Godhood and in my games he was born/made/became a God from the start, Vecna and whoever else that is stated as once being mortal are "Lesser Gods" aka Demigods with the power to grant spells and to be worshipped (which gives them the power to grant spells) but they don't affect the cosmic landscape as much/easily as Heironeous and Nerull (mostly I chose this because Gods cannot be maimed, if he was really a god Vecna would have reclaimed his eye and hand or regrown them)</blockquote>