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<blockquote data-quote="Christian" data-source="post: 1978977" data-attributes="member: 381"><p>Interesting. I pulled out my 3.0 rules to see, and it was significantly different (and not an issue) in that edition. Delay was still not an action, but you couldn't delay into the next round-if you delayed past the initiative count of -10-your initiative bonus, you lost your action for the round. To 'delay' into the next round, you used the Refocus action, which was a full-round action and therefore unavailable in the surprise round ... Refocus, of course, got dropped in 3.5 and replaced with the ability to Delay into a subsequent round.</p><p></p><p>To simulate the 3.0 effects under the new rules, characters Delaying in the surprise round would not be able to hold their action past the end of the surprise round. This might be a good solution; under our suggestion above, someone who delayed past the first actor in the regular round (but not as far as his initiative roll) would still only get a standard action, even though the person before him got a full-round action, which is also a bit weird. Perhaps the 3.0 rule for Delay should be included for Delays taken during the surprise round.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Christian, post: 1978977, member: 381"] Interesting. I pulled out my 3.0 rules to see, and it was significantly different (and not an issue) in that edition. Delay was still not an action, but you couldn't delay into the next round-if you delayed past the initiative count of -10-your initiative bonus, you lost your action for the round. To 'delay' into the next round, you used the Refocus action, which was a full-round action and therefore unavailable in the surprise round ... Refocus, of course, got dropped in 3.5 and replaced with the ability to Delay into a subsequent round. To simulate the 3.0 effects under the new rules, characters Delaying in the surprise round would not be able to hold their action past the end of the surprise round. This might be a good solution; under our suggestion above, someone who delayed past the first actor in the regular round (but not as far as his initiative roll) would still only get a standard action, even though the person before him got a full-round action, which is also a bit weird. Perhaps the 3.0 rule for Delay should be included for Delays taken during the surprise round. [/QUOTE]
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