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Message: <blockquote data-quote="EzekielRaiden" data-source="post: 9361651" data-attributes="member: 6790260">Yes. The OP's initial concern was, very specifically, that that legacy remains too strong in the existing thing.Not at all. The claim--which I don't agree with, but take far more seriously than you do--is that merely dropping the "it's specifically Christians fighting specifically Muslims and declaring them Pure Evil to be Destroyed Without Mercy" isn't enough. I would draw analogies to other archetypes that one could compare, but...well, I mean, by definition they're going to be deeply inflammatory because that's the whole point, that this archetype has roots that are necessarily Extremely Bad and we should think about what that means.My conclusion is that for other reasons than you claim (because I dispute those reasons, but not other reasons), the Paladin is fine. It has genuinely grown both beyond and apart from its origins to the point that it's a distinct thing now.If you'd read even one of my earlier posts, you would know how I feel about this, and would never have said such a thing. If you're going to claim to be arguing seriously, it behooves you to actually engage with the things others have said. I have repeatedly said that I think the Paladin has grown beyond its roots.</blockquote>