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<blockquote data-quote="Chaosmancer" data-source="post: 9368251" data-attributes="member: 6801228"><p>Sure, I won't deny any of that. But just because a majority of humanity is doing better than they used to, doesn't mean that an awful lot of them are not still in truly horrific situations. And were in potentially worse situations two, four, six, eight, ten and twelve decades ago. </p><p></p><p>It isn't also to say that there were not times and places where things were decidedly quite good for the people.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Sure, not going to deny this. But this is also generally true of any work that is not grim and gritty. Stories set in 20's America romanticizing gangs and capos often work just fine as long as you don't dig into the reality. Stories set in the colonial era when the Settlers came to America, same thing. Pioneer tales and Westerns set during the westward expansion, same thing. Tales of Ancient Rome, same thing. Modern tales about small town coffee shop owners in their idyllic town where the big city lawyer finds meaning in life... same thing. </p><p></p><p>Life largely sucks, and has always sucked. I just don't think it is necessarily fair to call this a problem exclusive to Fantasy. Unless a story is about the horrors of society and the lack of hope of people... Mystery, Romance, Historical Fiction... they all tend to fall into the same "trap" of not truly showing how horrible the world was during whatever time period they are set in. </p><p></p><p>After all, Rich Billionaire Playboys who have personalized armor capable of wrecking tanks is cool... until you start thinking about the implications of such.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Chaosmancer, post: 9368251, member: 6801228"] Sure, I won't deny any of that. But just because a majority of humanity is doing better than they used to, doesn't mean that an awful lot of them are not still in truly horrific situations. And were in potentially worse situations two, four, six, eight, ten and twelve decades ago. It isn't also to say that there were not times and places where things were decidedly quite good for the people. Sure, not going to deny this. But this is also generally true of any work that is not grim and gritty. Stories set in 20's America romanticizing gangs and capos often work just fine as long as you don't dig into the reality. Stories set in the colonial era when the Settlers came to America, same thing. Pioneer tales and Westerns set during the westward expansion, same thing. Tales of Ancient Rome, same thing. Modern tales about small town coffee shop owners in their idyllic town where the big city lawyer finds meaning in life... same thing. Life largely sucks, and has always sucked. I just don't think it is necessarily fair to call this a problem exclusive to Fantasy. Unless a story is about the horrors of society and the lack of hope of people... Mystery, Romance, Historical Fiction... they all tend to fall into the same "trap" of not truly showing how horrible the world was during whatever time period they are set in. After all, Rich Billionaire Playboys who have personalized armor capable of wrecking tanks is cool... until you start thinking about the implications of such. [/QUOTE]
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