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<blockquote data-quote="Chaosmancer" data-source="post: 9370500" data-attributes="member: 6801228"><p>Honestly, I think they are making good progress by simply cutting back the always evil tribal people, and presenting a more nuanced front. </p><p></p><p>And yeah, there was (back in the day) CLEARLY a colonialist power fantasy at work, combined with this sort of warring states ideal of being the warlord who reunites the region. Because wargaming. But we are much more interested these days in heroics, and again... people might not LIKE it, but "Orcs" have moved so far from the original depictions that the majority of people in fantasy wouldn't really take a "these tribal people are all evil" narrative seriously. Heck, I recently saw a joke post where they stated that in a specific fantasy world, Orcs love War so much, they specifically send diplomats to human nations to convince them that the orcs are evil, so the humans will keep having a war with them. It is silly, and not meant to be taken seriously anymore. </p><p></p><p>Meanwhile, I could name DOZENS of fantasy properties that very much address and grapple with the idea of always evil monsters. </p><p></p><p>And once you have a more nuanced view of evil... then the crusader archetype who slays evil must naturally gain nuance as well.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Chaosmancer, post: 9370500, member: 6801228"] Honestly, I think they are making good progress by simply cutting back the always evil tribal people, and presenting a more nuanced front. And yeah, there was (back in the day) CLEARLY a colonialist power fantasy at work, combined with this sort of warring states ideal of being the warlord who reunites the region. Because wargaming. But we are much more interested these days in heroics, and again... people might not LIKE it, but "Orcs" have moved so far from the original depictions that the majority of people in fantasy wouldn't really take a "these tribal people are all evil" narrative seriously. Heck, I recently saw a joke post where they stated that in a specific fantasy world, Orcs love War so much, they specifically send diplomats to human nations to convince them that the orcs are evil, so the humans will keep having a war with them. It is silly, and not meant to be taken seriously anymore. Meanwhile, I could name DOZENS of fantasy properties that very much address and grapple with the idea of always evil monsters. And once you have a more nuanced view of evil... then the crusader archetype who slays evil must naturally gain nuance as well. [/QUOTE]
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