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Message: <blockquote data-quote="digitaldark" data-source="post: 440687" data-attributes="member: 7223">One thing a lot of people tend to forget (IMO) is the fact that the relative "power" of the individual's self is NOT the extent of their power! They are Demon lords after all! Lord indicating they rule....rulers have power that extend beyond their physical self... for intance... A 1st level warrior may not have a chance against a party of 4 10th level characters....but a 1st level warrior who is a king is more than a match (if not overwhelming)....because the party of 4 10th level adventurers must get through his kingdom first!Asmodeus may be a decent challenge for a group of 4 32nd level adventurers....but that is only if they can manage getting to him... with Asmodeus being the ruler of pretty much all devils that means they are going to need to get through layers and layer of devils (which, yes, could the layers can canceivably possibly be bypassed in some manner) and then make it through Asmodeus' hordes of POWERFUL devils and fiends......I feel they are more than powerful enough as written.... The way I see is is most people take the demon lord and put it in a completely bare 100ft by 100ft room with a party of 4 adventures of equal level and say the party defeats them easily...of course they will...you've taken the demon lord out of its context and its world..just like anything would out if its context...its like taking a shark out of the water and saying it is a gold fish because it can't hurt you when its on land...but get in the water with it..and you're pretty much at its mercy..who says you have to redo or modify the Lord when you can create his powerful minions.. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f600.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":D" title="Big grin    :D"  data-smilie="8"data-shortname=":D" /> (much more creative and rewarding IMHO than buffing up the Lords...and it gets to the same point...who's to say Asmodeus doesn't have a Paragon Balor Fighter 20 minion somewhere waiting to destroy his adversaries.... <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f61b.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":P" title="Stick out tongue    :P"  data-smilie="7"data-shortname=":P" />)anywayz...just my .02 worth and me defending one of my favorite authors interpretive rights... <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile    :)"  data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /></blockquote>

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