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Message: <blockquote data-quote="The Serge" data-source="post: 2857800" data-attributes="member: 4049">Yes, solars did.  And some deities did.  However, this does not discount the fact that the archfiends were still considered as lesser gods in 1ed.However, there was a development in 2ed that suggested that the Lords of the Nine, perhaps just one, forced the orcish pantheon out of Hell (DRAGON Magazine 223).  On Hallowed Ground continued this theory:emphasis mineActually, this was adapted from and expanded upon Planescape canon.  It's in Planes of Law and in On Hallowed Ground and in DRAGON Magazine 223.  And the texts imply that Set is on the defensive in this contest.The reference to Asmodeus specifically, AFAICT, happened more or less simultaneously with my earliest Dicefreaks work and with the official PS website.  However, it was never clearly said that Asmodeus did anything, but that perhaps one of the Lords.If they were so powerful, they wouldn't worry about "upstart demon life."  If I'm unhappy with mosquitos, I set things up to kill them or at least encourage them to move elsewhere.You're welcome!  <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile    :)"  data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" />This is essentiallly the position that DF takes ratcheted up a few levels.</blockquote>