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<blockquote data-quote="GVDammerung" data-source="post: 2858870" data-attributes="member: 33060">Not sure how we would suss these folks out.&nbsp; And I'm especially not sure their opinions should not be fully considered. Imagining they understand what they choose to read, I think their opinions would be legitimate and worthy of consideration.&nbsp; But anon.I might feel somewhat differently if there were better guidelines to do this but 8 bullet points?&nbsp; I am dubious.&nbsp; As a DM I like less work, not more, when dealing with stats.&nbsp; Which gets us back to a point I think you may be tacitly conceding here - demon princes, however you get them there, should be the biggest and baddest, fitting their historic role in the mythology and their status as the physical embodiment of the pinnacle of evil.Now, there you go again.&nbsp; Unless you are peeking in windows, you have no way to know who actually plays or DMs and who just reads.&nbsp; And you are discounting readers out of hand.&nbsp; See my first comment immediately above.&nbsp; You are implying that anyone who is concerned is not a &quot;real&quot; player or DM, yet there is no possible way you can substantiate this.&nbsp; It is then a slur on those who take issue with the approach, more generally.&nbsp; Name calling by subtler means.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="GVDammerung, post: 2858870, member: 33060"] Not sure how we would suss these folks out. And I'm especially not sure their opinions should not be fully considered. Imagining they understand what they choose to read, I think their opinions would be legitimate and worthy of consideration. But anon. I might feel somewhat differently if there were better guidelines to do this but 8 bullet points? I am dubious. As a DM I like less work, not more, when dealing with stats. Which gets us back to a point I think you may be tacitly conceding here - demon princes, however you get them there, should be the biggest and baddest, fitting their historic role in the mythology and their status as the physical embodiment of the pinnacle of evil. Now, there you go again. Unless you are peeking in windows, you have no way to know who actually plays or DMs and who just reads. And you are discounting readers out of hand. See my first comment immediately above. You are implying that anyone who is concerned is not a "real" player or DM, yet there is no possible way you can substantiate this. It is then a slur on those who take issue with the approach, more generally. Name calling by subtler means. [/QUOTE]

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