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Message: <blockquote data-quote="BOZ" data-source="post: 2915094" data-attributes="member: 1241">More notes on the Abyss and the demons therein:Assorted items from Dragon magazine:Demonology Made Easy (#20): There's a cool picture of Orcus here. Useful article, too.From the Sorcerer's Scroll (#23): The first appearance of the random demon generation table, which would later appear in the 1E DMG, and would later become the basis for the hordlings.From the Sorcerer's Scroll (#28): EGG gives some insight into how the demons, devils, and daemons relate to each other.Patron Demons (#42): The topic should be obvious from the title!Down-to-earth Divinity (#54): Ed Greenwood mentions a beast cult demigod named Repra, King of Serpents, based in the Abyss. (a google search suggests this being was destroyed by Sseth)Creature Catalog III (#101): Featuring the Tener, which is sometimes found on the Abyss.Bazaar of the Bizarre (#117): Features the Ring of Lolth, a minor artifact.The Dragon's Bestiary (#118): Features the Phoenix Spider, an inhabitant of the Abyss.The Uldra (#119): The uldra god Aslak once united with Moradin and Garl Glittergold to fight against Demogorgon and several major demon princes he had united with.Dragon's Bestiary: Nonhuman Creatures With Human Form (#141): Features the Black Troll, a troll variant created by breeding with demons.The Game Wizards (#165): Ah, the beginning of the end for the demons and devils. They had already been removed from AD&D with the advent of 2E, now with this review of Monstrous Compendium 8: The Outer Planes, (Jan 1991 - Planescape, as stated previously, debuted in 1994) we see the seeds for the Blood War, "baatezu," and "tanar'ri" as well as them being described as "races" of fiends for the first time. The archdemons and archdevils are removed from the picture entirely, and the demons and devils have been officially neutered until 3E is released.Fiend Knights and Dark Artifacts (#206): Featuring material cut from "Ivid the Undying".Ecology of the Neogi (#214): One of the five gods introduced for the Neogi is Thrig'ki, a lesser power from the Abyss.Dragon's Bestiary: Lords of Chaos (#221): A tale is related of how the slaad lord Ssendam repelled a demonic invasion of the Spawning Stone.Campaign Classics: Three Greyhawk Grimoires (#225): Iggwilv's Nethertome, a work lesser known than her Demonomicon (which the article squeamishly refers to as the "Fiendomicon"), features some backstory as well as two new spells - Iggwilv's Lightning Cage and Iggwilv's Timeless Sleep.270: Armor of the Abyssal Lords, Paul FraserDragon #277 features a type of demon known as the dread, and their lord, Yrsillar, Lord of Nothing. Yrsillar's home plane of Belistor is a vast wasteland of nothingness with close ties to the Negative Energy Plane. Only those creatures that can tolerate direct exposure to negative energy can survive Belistor's lifeless deserts. This proximity to the Negative Energy Plane gives Yrsillar many of his unique powers.289 - Abyssal maw (The Gnolls of Naresh, Chris Pramas)295 - Cataboligne demon (Monstrous Denizens of Oerth, Sean K. Reynolds)298 - Aracholoth, brood mother, proxy of Lolth, spiderleg horror (The Punishments of Lolth, Eric Cagle)312 - Demon, turagathshnee; demon lord, Turaglas (The Ebon Maw: Beware the Waking Hunger, Ari Marmell)Visage (now in Libris Mortis)Shadow Hound ("Giantcraft" accessory)Tanar'ri Living Fortress (Dragon #233)Dirtwraith (Dragon #270, "Minions of Iuz")Dungeon #25 ("The Standing Stones of Sundown") featured an Ancient Vrock (aka The Beast, Jaazzpaa), hinting that vrocks are either older than most of the other tanar'ri, or that tanar'ric forms have evolved over time.The adventure says "Jaazzpaa is an example of a type of vrock seldom seen nowadays, even in the outer planes. The race of ancient vrocks was almost wiped out 2,000 years ago (while Jaazzpaa was imprisoned in his rock) when one of their leaders had an unfortunate disagreement with a powerful ruler of the Abyss. The ancient race of vrocks was quickly superseded by the race of common vrocks, which was less likely to step out of line."Ancient vrocks were slightly more powerful than their common kin and posessed two ninth-level spells each..."quoth Rip, "2,000 years ago seems unlikely to be "older than most of the other tanar'ri." In fact, I think we can perhaps draw the opposite conclusion - that vrocks in their present form are actually younger than most other breeds due to this act of genocide by an unnamed Abyssal lord.As a tangent, I wonder if the stonecase spell described in that adventure - which imprisoned Jaazzpaa in the form of a monolith - is also the cause of the Twisted Forest in the Greyhawk campaign, which imprisoned a band of ancient wizards in the same shape?"quoth grodog, "I'd really like to see spiritwrack and the conjuration circles from Dragon 56 and S4 return to the game! Those two versions of circles differ from one another, and also differ from the info in the 1e DMG and what eventually appeared under ensnarement (UA page 60); I don't recall whether or not the original version of ensnarement from Dragon 68, page 27 differs from the version published in S4 or not."Races with a little demon in 'em:Fey'ri - sun elves and demons (Monsters of Faerûn,Races of Faerûn)Tanarukk - orcs and demons (Monsters of Faerûn,Races of Faerûn)Wisplings - halflings and demons (Fiend Folio 3E)Krinth - Netherese arcanists in the City of Shade and demons residing on Plane of Shadow (Champions of Ruin)Half-fiend Variants:Lizard King (Serpent Kingdoms, 1E FF)Tanttur - advance tendriculous and demon (Random Encounters - Demons on WOTC site)From Planes of Chaos, the Book of Chaos, page 19:"The Abyss is large enough that creatures besides the tanar'ri can eke out a squalid, brutish life, but a creature's got to be tough and quick to survive. Some are mountains, behemoths, juggernauts of power that even the tanar'ri respect - creatures like bebeliths, bodaks, fireshadows, shinmus, water lords, and the greater varrangoin..."Others are scavengers that hide in the cracks, scuttling into view only to snatch food and desperately trying to avoid attention. Abyssal scavengers include small fliers like galltrits, gremlins, mephits, shadow fiends, vargouilles, and lesser varrangoin."There's servant creatures that make themselves useful to far more powerful protectors: the spying eyewings, the lumbering mara, and trickster quasits. Fetch and yeth hounds also fall into this category."Spyder-Fiend: Kakkuu, Spithriku, Phisarazu, Lycosidilith, Raklupis (Rod of Seven Parts, MCA4)Equar, Charnalbalk (Dragon #243)Shadow hounds (Giantcraft)Eyewing (Monstrous Manual, MC4)Fireshadow (MC4)Demonic Sawfly (Dragon # 252)Dirtwraith (Dragon #270)Fetch (MC4)Gremlin (Monstrous Manual)Narvaezan fiend (Savage Coast Monstrous Compendium)Mara (MC11)Thunder Beast (MMII)Some more names from 2nd edition Eleanor DeVille a succubus from The Book of Lairs IIFrom Iuz the Evil -(Baron) Kerzinen of Rookroost a baron cambion (half-fiend)-Marionnen a major cambion(half-field)-(General) Sindol, Commander of Iuz's Legion of the Black Death a baron cambion(half-fiend)Demon amulets were what demon lords kept their spirits in - they were essentially the demonic equivalent of lich phylacteries. Orcus' amulet appears in Dead Gods (it doesn't have any power to hurt him anymore), and the recent Zuggtmoy article mentioned that Zuggtmoy keeps Iuz's amulet in her realm.from PSMC2, the following creatures are not demons and not necessarily unique to the Abyss, but the Climate/Terrain line suggests that they are often found there:Bloodthorn (same as plant originally found in 1E MM2), Darkweaver, VorrThese three creatures can now be found in the Fiend Folio.Dragon Annual #3 has an article called "Planar Pestilence". I haven't read it en detail yet, but among the diseases, Abyssal Rot and Zombic Leprosy seem most strongly tied to the Abyss. Planar rabies (Sceulia) might have some ties. The Pox (Scourge of Anthraxus) mentions the possibility that it wasn't created by Anthraxus, but by the Lords of the Nine as a weapon against the Tanar'ri.Monstrous Mythology:"[Laogzed's] origins are always mythologically ascribed to the coupling of an evil god with a reptilian tanar'ri demale; sometimes Panzuriel is considered to be this monster's father, else a demented deity of darkness such as the Elder Elemental God."Dungeon #64, "Grotto of the Queen," page 22 features the Tribute Gatherer, an octopus-like creature that serves the goddess Umberlee.i think dungeon 89 and 95 are ones to reference for the prevision stats. Orcus and some chosen of Kootchtchie are in 89 iirc. and the Narzugon and Mezzoloth plus Orlath and some thrall of Demogorgon are in 95.Dungeon #117-119 was a demon-themed story arc which featured a cleric of Kostchtchie.quoth Rip, "Besides the Plain of Infinite Portals (where it runs in trickles near the town of Styros), I have the Styx listed as flowing layer 4, the Grand Abyss, endlessly down the chasm (this may be screed); a tendril of the Styx reaches the fifth layer, Wormblood (according to the 3e Manual of the Planes); into a layer known as the Abyssian Ocean (mentioned in H4, Throne of Bloodstone), where all the water is Styx water. If it flows through Gaping Maw, Demogorgon's layer, it doesn't dominate it. I would also expect it to flow through Blood Tor (Umberlee's realm in layer 13) and Smaragd. The River Styx definitely flows through Durao (number 274 by the Guvners' count), where the tanar'ri armies use the port there to move their ships throughout the other lower planes; it also travels through Thanatos, where it touches both Naratyr and Lachrymosa, the Cauldron of Tears. Corporeal undead are often lashed together to creat grotesque ships used to travel from one city to the other. It taints the mud of Zuggtmoy's realm in Shedaklah, #222, granting it the same terrible power as the river itself. The river How Nai-ho in Feng-Tu, layer 300, is a branch of the Styx.There are certainly other layers it touches, but that's all the official ones I have written down. The Abyss has many other rivers, such as the River of Salt that flows through the three layers of Graz'zt's realm, the Pyriphlegethon that flows through many of the hotter layers and Thanatos (noted in Throne of Bloodstone, though not by that name), and the River of Worms in Tarnhem's former domain."MMIV includes the following demons:DeathdrinkerKastighurNashrou Whisper DemonIn the Planar Handbook, page 162, the Fountain of Screams is detailed. This planar touchstone is an island of black glass in a vast sea of acid. This gives a slightly different twist to the table entry for Layer 245: The Scalding Sea. (See FC1: Hordes of the Abyss, page 156.)The Cursed Crimson Crawler in Dragon #14, is described several times as a demon, but has an alignment of Lawful Evil and resides in Hell.  Make of it what you will.   <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile    :)"  data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /><a href="http://www.enworld.org/showpost.php?p=2939626&postcount=37" target="_blank">Notes from novels</a> in this thread, and a <a href="http://www.enworld.org/showpost.php?p=2939702&postcount=38" target="_blank">response</a>.from our article in Dragon #347, "The Princes of Elemental Evil":"Olhydra counts Dagon, a demon lord who resides on the 89th layer of the Abyss, as one of her greatest allies.  Rumors hold that the two are lovers, and might have sired twin daughters."  of course, we wrote that line right before FC1 came out, when the only info we had about dagon was that he was the Prince of the Depths and lived on the 89th layer of the abyss (as gleaned from WotC's website preview).  <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f609.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=";)" title="Wink    ;)"  data-smilie="2"data-shortname=";)" />  we just basically guessed how well that would work, and it slipped on through...of course, Demogorgon might also be mad at Olhydra for the "renegade sect of hezrou demons she lured away" from him.  <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile    :)"  data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" />"Yan-C-Bin sometimes tangles with the demon Pazuzu, as both princes lay similar claims to the title of Lord of All Planar Skies.  A fair number of vrocks and other demons have sworn loyalty to Yan-C-Bin, which only enrages Pazuzu more."</blockquote>

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