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<blockquote data-quote="Grover Cleaveland" data-source="post: 2683226" data-attributes="member: 34932"><p>You're absolutely right about that. I meant that post-<em>Faces of Evil</em>, which I think introduced the "Grand Unified Theory of Larval-based Fiendish evolution" or GUToLF, as I like to call it when I'm feeling familiar, as I am right now - and which, now that I think of it, pretty much only existed in that book and possibly <em>Hellbound</em> - didn't explicitly mention the possibility that souls turn directly into manes as well as evolving thence from wormhood. Which is a pretty narrow thing to say, but I mean that the GUToLF didn't in itself require the spontaneous be-mane-ing of souls, and manes are still petitioners anyway (though dretches are not). I mean, if we can consider pre-GUToLF texts we should also consider first edition ones, which certainly didn't use the GUToLF. </p><p></p><p>But I mean, if I can formulate this in yet another way without trying everyone's patience, is that if you accept the GUToLF - as I do - there's no book that uses it that explicitly allows for spontaneous bemaning. Having some larvae simply evolve quicker than others seems more cogent to me, since you don't have to explain why some souls would become a maggot-thing and some a humanoid, but Shemeska's point about how the Abyss is a plane of Chaos and chaotic things happen there is a good one. Cogent isn't always better, not in the planes of Chaos.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Grover Cleaveland, post: 2683226, member: 34932"] You're absolutely right about that. I meant that post-[i]Faces of Evil[/i], which I think introduced the "Grand Unified Theory of Larval-based Fiendish evolution" or GUToLF, as I like to call it when I'm feeling familiar, as I am right now - and which, now that I think of it, pretty much only existed in that book and possibly [i]Hellbound[/i] - didn't explicitly mention the possibility that souls turn directly into manes as well as evolving thence from wormhood. Which is a pretty narrow thing to say, but I mean that the GUToLF didn't in itself require the spontaneous be-mane-ing of souls, and manes are still petitioners anyway (though dretches are not). I mean, if we can consider pre-GUToLF texts we should also consider first edition ones, which certainly didn't use the GUToLF. But I mean, if I can formulate this in yet another way without trying everyone's patience, is that if you accept the GUToLF - as I do - there's no book that uses it that explicitly allows for spontaneous bemaning. Having some larvae simply evolve quicker than others seems more cogent to me, since you don't have to explain why some souls would become a maggot-thing and some a humanoid, but Shemeska's point about how the Abyss is a plane of Chaos and chaotic things happen there is a good one. Cogent isn't always better, not in the planes of Chaos. [/QUOTE]
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