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<blockquote data-quote="BOZ" data-source="post: 2691998" data-attributes="member: 1241">well, OK, maybe i should re-state what i mean.&nbsp; the celestial buerocracy was *physically* in the same *places* as the rest of the multiverse.&nbsp; but they were very much their own deal, and did their own things, and mostly preferred not to interact with anyone else.thus, i would not assume that a krakentua *was* from the abyss simply because it *could be*.&nbsp; sometimes, the cleanest answer is not the best one.&nbsp; i'm sure that the chinese gods had some demiplanes (ala Spirit World) for one thing, and i don't see anything about the krakentua to firmly state that it was extraplanar in origin.same thing for gremlins and their ilk.&nbsp; <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f61b.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":p" title="Stick out tongue&nbsp; &nbsp; :p"&nbsp; data-smilie="7"data-shortname=":p" />&nbsp; well, they clearly came from *somewhere* at some time, but not necessarily any plane we are familiar with.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="BOZ, post: 2691998, member: 1241"] well, OK, maybe i should re-state what i mean. the celestial buerocracy was *physically* in the same *places* as the rest of the multiverse. but they were very much their own deal, and did their own things, and mostly preferred not to interact with anyone else. thus, i would not assume that a krakentua *was* from the abyss simply because it *could be*. sometimes, the cleanest answer is not the best one. i'm sure that the chinese gods had some demiplanes (ala Spirit World) for one thing, and i don't see anything about the krakentua to firmly state that it was extraplanar in origin. same thing for gremlins and their ilk. :p well, they clearly came from *somewhere* at some time, but not necessarily any plane we are familiar with. [/QUOTE]

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