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<blockquote data-quote="GVDammerung" data-source="post: 2705526" data-attributes="member: 33060"><p>Yes. I am working on a Canonfire article that will deal with them (after I finish the Fiend Factory incorporation) but in a nutshell they are interesting to me as follows:</p><p></p><p>(1) The MF Demons postulates an Infernum/Infernus (contrary to Grodog, these are not altogether "sin based" as there are only 5 realms within Infernum/Infernus vs the 7 deadly sins and as the descriptions are far more wide ranging; we are talking over dozens and dozens of named demons plus more demonkind);</p><p></p><p>(2) Lucifer was "cast out of Hell" in the old Politics of Hell Dragon article;</p><p></p><p>(3) Lucifer is given Infernum/Infernus to rule in Tome of Horrors Vol I which was, as I understand it, under license from Wotc, not sure how that effects copyright, but for my purposes copyright is irrelevant; and</p><p></p><p>(4) It is then possible to connect the "cast out" Lucifer with Infernum/Infernus. This is particularly fascinating as Lucifer is a devil and infernus is populated by demons. I love that "logic," <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f600.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":D" title="Big grin :D" data-smilie="8"data-shortname=":D" /> as it opens some greater possibilities, IMO, than/in addition to the tired "Bloodwar." </p><p></p><p>::Nod to Rip. It also puts the "Grazzt hypothesis" vis-a-vis the idea that he was sired by Asmodeus/Jaserine(whatever the spelling of Asmodeus' other name is) into play, when we mix devils and demons, even if it ultimately is not Grazzt specific in that way)::</p><p></p><p>There is more too it, obviously, but there you have it in a nut shell.</p><p></p><p>For purposes of the Fiendish Codex, I think there is probably not time, space nor inclination to pursue the incorporation of the Demons line (6 products, btw).</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="GVDammerung, post: 2705526, member: 33060"] Yes. I am working on a Canonfire article that will deal with them (after I finish the Fiend Factory incorporation) but in a nutshell they are interesting to me as follows: (1) The MF Demons postulates an Infernum/Infernus (contrary to Grodog, these are not altogether "sin based" as there are only 5 realms within Infernum/Infernus vs the 7 deadly sins and as the descriptions are far more wide ranging; we are talking over dozens and dozens of named demons plus more demonkind); (2) Lucifer was "cast out of Hell" in the old Politics of Hell Dragon article; (3) Lucifer is given Infernum/Infernus to rule in Tome of Horrors Vol I which was, as I understand it, under license from Wotc, not sure how that effects copyright, but for my purposes copyright is irrelevant; and (4) It is then possible to connect the "cast out" Lucifer with Infernum/Infernus. This is particularly fascinating as Lucifer is a devil and infernus is populated by demons. I love that "logic," :D as it opens some greater possibilities, IMO, than/in addition to the tired "Bloodwar." ::Nod to Rip. It also puts the "Grazzt hypothesis" vis-a-vis the idea that he was sired by Asmodeus/Jaserine(whatever the spelling of Asmodeus' other name is) into play, when we mix devils and demons, even if it ultimately is not Grazzt specific in that way):: There is more too it, obviously, but there you have it in a nut shell. For purposes of the Fiendish Codex, I think there is probably not time, space nor inclination to pursue the incorporation of the Demons line (6 products, btw). [/QUOTE]
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