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<blockquote data-quote="Shemeska" data-source="post: 5254830" data-attributes="member: 11697"><p>Nah, I don't get much upset about it since I stopped looking at 4e as anything but its own distinct game with no continuity to 1e/2e/3e. Something might look awkward and make me go 'wah?' but not upset at this point. I don't play it. I've got my own favored version in print, and 4e fans have theirs. Unless they retconned Harishek ap Thulkesh into something wierd, since he's the one baernaloth I named in canon, I won't make any protest since it's a game I don't much care about at this stage. The purist in me doesn't care since it's a different game than the one I contributed planar lore towards.</p><p></p><p>Having said that, it was actually surprising to see them (the baern) show up, given how poorly some of the 2e planar material has been portrayed in the past by some of the 4e guys. I haven't read the book myself at this point, but I'll find it on a store shelf at some point and go through it just for a comparison with Fiendish Codex I, which in my mind is the high bar for such a book.</p><p></p><p>I did see a pretty good review by Rip van Wormer this morning, and I trust his opinion better than just about any other - he knows the background material better than I do oftentimes. It wasn't exactly a good review, but mostly it seems the book suffered because it covers the same ground as FCI just rewritten to 4e's cosmology and it suffers by comparison.</p><p></p><p>Here was Rip's comments about the book <a href="http://www.planewalker.com/forum/4e-demonomicom#comment-60140" target="_blank">4E Demonomicom | Planewalker</a>.</p><p></p><p>The one thing I will approve of was the 4e version giving the baern better stats. They should have had better ones in 2e (though there were ways to rationalize that all).</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Shemeska, post: 5254830, member: 11697"] Nah, I don't get much upset about it since I stopped looking at 4e as anything but its own distinct game with no continuity to 1e/2e/3e. Something might look awkward and make me go 'wah?' but not upset at this point. I don't play it. I've got my own favored version in print, and 4e fans have theirs. Unless they retconned Harishek ap Thulkesh into something wierd, since he's the one baernaloth I named in canon, I won't make any protest since it's a game I don't much care about at this stage. The purist in me doesn't care since it's a different game than the one I contributed planar lore towards. Having said that, it was actually surprising to see them (the baern) show up, given how poorly some of the 2e planar material has been portrayed in the past by some of the 4e guys. I haven't read the book myself at this point, but I'll find it on a store shelf at some point and go through it just for a comparison with Fiendish Codex I, which in my mind is the high bar for such a book. I did see a pretty good review by Rip van Wormer this morning, and I trust his opinion better than just about any other - he knows the background material better than I do oftentimes. It wasn't exactly a good review, but mostly it seems the book suffered because it covers the same ground as FCI just rewritten to 4e's cosmology and it suffers by comparison. Here was Rip's comments about the book [url=http://www.planewalker.com/forum/4e-demonomicom#comment-60140]4E Demonomicom | Planewalker[/url]. The one thing I will approve of was the 4e version giving the baern better stats. They should have had better ones in 2e (though there were ways to rationalize that all). [/QUOTE]
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