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<blockquote data-quote="billd91" data-source="post: 9331018" data-attributes="member: 3400">Honestly, the more complex the game and its design, the more GMs and players need help sorting things out. Subsystems are a particular bane here - whether Shadowrun with spells/deckers/riggers/cyberware or Pathfinder 2 with crafting/shield damage to keep up with - the more of those the game introduces that you have to deal with, the more you need something to help manage it. I may find it kind of fun to design powers and heroes in Mutants and Masterminds, but that's a system I choose to put on my propeller beanie for. In the fantasy RPG context, I'm pretty much done with dealing with fussy crafting subsystems, so that's another knock against PF2 for me. And I only play Shadowrun infrequently, so I'm dependent on copying someone else's build to do it competently. I don't want to invest more time on it than I have to.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="billd91, post: 9331018, member: 3400"] Honestly, the more complex the game and its design, the more GMs and players [B]need[/B] help sorting things out. Subsystems are a particular bane here - whether Shadowrun with spells/deckers/riggers/cyberware or Pathfinder 2 with crafting/shield damage to keep up with - the more of those the game introduces that you [B]have[/B] to deal with, the more you need something to help manage it. I may find it kind of fun to design powers and heroes in Mutants and Masterminds, but that's a system I choose to put on my propeller beanie for. In the fantasy RPG context, I'm pretty much [B]done[/B] with dealing with fussy crafting subsystems, so that's another knock against PF2 for me. And I only play Shadowrun infrequently, so I'm dependent on copying someone else's build to do it competently. I don't want to invest more time on it than I have to. [/QUOTE]

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