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<blockquote data-quote="Tyrol" data-source="post: 1652642" data-attributes="member: 18213"><p>One last set of questions about dervishes.</p><p></p><p>1) Can a Dervish use the Power Attack feat using a Scimitar? </p><p></p><p>2) What if the Dervish only has one scimitar, and wishes to use it as a 2-handed weapon. Can he do so and still recieve the *1.5 strength bonus to damage? </p><p></p><p>I believe the letter of the rules say no to all of these questions (*unless the Dervish can choose to turn Slashing Blades off and on as Black Knight Irios points out), but I would think common sense says that since the Dervish had (or still has?) the proficiency to use a Scimitar as a "One-Handed" weapon at one time, that they still could if they desired to (especially for purposes of using a single scimitar as a 2-handed weapon, in the very least). The Sunblade comes to mind as an example of a weapon that could be used as either (with both bastard sword and short sword feats, one of which is classified as one-handed and the other light). While I realize that this example is different - that the Sunblade is a magical weapon, and the scimitar used by a Dervish is not necessarily magic - I could see a Dervish PC arguing that they should have a choice in their usage, particularly if they have moved on from the Dervish PrC but still wish to use Scimitar(s).</p><p></p><p>3) If a Dervish *can* declare a Scimitar's use as either a 1-handed weapon or light weapon (see argument below quotes), can she use Power Attack while dual wielding, declare both to be 1-handed weapons and incurring an extra -2 (for a total of -4) on the offhand attack (since it is not light)?</p><p></p><p>4) Could the Dervish declare the main-hand Scimitar as a One-Handed weapon, the off-hand as a light weapon?</p><p></p><p>5) If the dervish could choose different usage for different hands (as in question 4), could she Power Attack and receive the benefits of Power Attack on the main-hand, but not the offhand (though all attacks would take the penalty)?</p><p></p><p>6) Repeat Question 1-5 with any TWF using two sunblades. What would the answers be then? </p><p></p><p>Would this be house rules?</p><p></p><p>Relevant Quotes:</p><p></p><p></p><p> </p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Edit: Hit before finishing, and fixing scimitar table.</p><p></p><p>Edit2: Added Question 4-6, abandoned fixing table, darn code likes to squish spaces even in courier new, drat! <img src="http://www.enworld.org/forum/images/smilies/laugh.png" class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":lol:" title="Laughing :lol:" data-shortname=":lol:" /> Typos.</p><p>I'd also like to note that I realize the RP aspect of a Dervish tends toward subtlety, not brute force, as the flavor text says (so traditionally they probably would never take power attack), but I'm looking at it in terms of gameplay.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Tyrol, post: 1652642, member: 18213"] One last set of questions about dervishes. 1) Can a Dervish use the Power Attack feat using a Scimitar? 2) What if the Dervish only has one scimitar, and wishes to use it as a 2-handed weapon. Can he do so and still recieve the *1.5 strength bonus to damage? I believe the letter of the rules say no to all of these questions (*unless the Dervish can choose to turn Slashing Blades off and on as Black Knight Irios points out), but I would think common sense says that since the Dervish had (or still has?) the proficiency to use a Scimitar as a "One-Handed" weapon at one time, that they still could if they desired to (especially for purposes of using a single scimitar as a 2-handed weapon, in the very least). The Sunblade comes to mind as an example of a weapon that could be used as either (with both bastard sword and short sword feats, one of which is classified as one-handed and the other light). While I realize that this example is different - that the Sunblade is a magical weapon, and the scimitar used by a Dervish is not necessarily magic - I could see a Dervish PC arguing that they should have a choice in their usage, particularly if they have moved on from the Dervish PrC but still wish to use Scimitar(s). 3) If a Dervish *can* declare a Scimitar's use as either a 1-handed weapon or light weapon (see argument below quotes), can she use Power Attack while dual wielding, declare both to be 1-handed weapons and incurring an extra -2 (for a total of -4) on the offhand attack (since it is not light)? 4) Could the Dervish declare the main-hand Scimitar as a One-Handed weapon, the off-hand as a light weapon? 5) If the dervish could choose different usage for different hands (as in question 4), could she Power Attack and receive the benefits of Power Attack on the main-hand, but not the offhand (though all attacks would take the penalty)? 6) Repeat Question 1-5 with any TWF using two sunblades. What would the answers be then? Would this be house rules? Relevant Quotes: Edit: Hit before finishing, and fixing scimitar table. Edit2: Added Question 4-6, abandoned fixing table, darn code likes to squish spaces even in courier new, drat! :lol: Typos. I'd also like to note that I realize the RP aspect of a Dervish tends toward subtlety, not brute force, as the flavor text says (so traditionally they probably would never take power attack), but I'm looking at it in terms of gameplay. [/QUOTE]
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