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<blockquote data-quote="heliopolix" data-source="post: 1397947" data-attributes="member: 15956"><p>strictly speaking, you cant take a feat unless you meet the pre-reqs for it. There are "vitrual feats" like the Rangers TWF, and feats you get from classes in certain situations, like Cleave while in Dervish Dance. If you lose the pre-reqs to a feat (ie a fighter w/ a 15 str takes PowerAttack, then gets ray of enfeeblemented down to 10 str) you cant use the feat until you meet the pre-reqs again. In the end, it all comes down to how much time the NPC is going to spend "on screen", and how much of that "on screen" time he'll be in Dervish Dance and use Thousand Cuts. From your loadout of feats, it looks like hes Foc, ImpCrit in Falchion, by the lack of TWF feats to suggest dual scimitars (very cool style <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f600.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":D" title="Big grin :D" data-smilie="8"data-shortname=":D" />). As thousand Cuts is only a one-round-per-day ability, he'll be slightly more powerfull than he would be normally. If he would has Devastating + Overwhelming Crit, and of the 8or 9 attacks he would get (difference depends on if hasted / has wpn of speed), 25% (15-20 crit on Falchion) or 2 attacks would threat, depending on rolls. </p><p></p><p>If you allow him to take the feats w/o having Cleave /GCleave, then he has 2 feats that will only get used on 2 attacks per day (per above odds). On the other hand, If you just go ahead and give him Cleave and Great Cleave, then some class abilities become useless (Cleave while in DD is useless b/c u can cleave anyway, same for GCleave in ThsndCuts), but Dev + Ovr Crit will get used on ~25% of ALL you attacks. IMHO go ahead and give him Cleave and Great Cleave. You've probably got some fighter levels in there to meet the pre-req, so feats should be cheap. If not, consider adding some.</p><p></p><p>Later,</p><p>Jeff</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="heliopolix, post: 1397947, member: 15956"] strictly speaking, you cant take a feat unless you meet the pre-reqs for it. There are "vitrual feats" like the Rangers TWF, and feats you get from classes in certain situations, like Cleave while in Dervish Dance. If you lose the pre-reqs to a feat (ie a fighter w/ a 15 str takes PowerAttack, then gets ray of enfeeblemented down to 10 str) you cant use the feat until you meet the pre-reqs again. In the end, it all comes down to how much time the NPC is going to spend "on screen", and how much of that "on screen" time he'll be in Dervish Dance and use Thousand Cuts. From your loadout of feats, it looks like hes Foc, ImpCrit in Falchion, by the lack of TWF feats to suggest dual scimitars (very cool style :D). As thousand Cuts is only a one-round-per-day ability, he'll be slightly more powerfull than he would be normally. If he would has Devastating + Overwhelming Crit, and of the 8or 9 attacks he would get (difference depends on if hasted / has wpn of speed), 25% (15-20 crit on Falchion) or 2 attacks would threat, depending on rolls. If you allow him to take the feats w/o having Cleave /GCleave, then he has 2 feats that will only get used on 2 attacks per day (per above odds). On the other hand, If you just go ahead and give him Cleave and Great Cleave, then some class abilities become useless (Cleave while in DD is useless b/c u can cleave anyway, same for GCleave in ThsndCuts), but Dev + Ovr Crit will get used on ~25% of ALL you attacks. IMHO go ahead and give him Cleave and Great Cleave. You've probably got some fighter levels in there to meet the pre-req, so feats should be cheap. If not, consider adding some. Later, Jeff [/QUOTE]
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