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Message: <blockquote data-quote="IceFractal" data-source="post: 3896716" data-attributes="member: 27704">In agreement with wedgeski, I think that in the actual DMG/adventure this will be expressed in a much more concise form, but that the form itself would need explanation, so it wasn't used.  For instance, you could describe the poison like this:Fortitude attack (+10, 1d10 plus poison 5/weakness)And have the poison rules specify that a poison in the form X/Y does X ongoing poison damage, has Y effect, both effects last the same time and are resisted with the same save, and having enough poison resistance to negate the ongoing damage also negates the Y effect.But if he just wrote that, people would be complaining that it's not clear what it even means.</blockquote>