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<blockquote data-quote="Voss" data-source="post: 3936688" data-attributes="member: 57593">More commonly, you'd mix them. I doubt you'd see a solo goblin, for example.&nbsp; That seems to be a special class reserved for beholders, dragons and special creatures of various natures.But the boss fight might include a whack of minions (whatever is equivalent to, say, 2 PCs) a couple normal goblins, and perhaps a goblin 'leader' who might be a level or two higher than the rest(and the PCs).&nbsp; In theory, monster levels will be balanced against the PC group as individuals.&nbsp; Not like CR is where a CR8 is good against a group of 4 8th level PCs, but rather a group of 4 8th level PCs has 4 8th level monster opponents that can be broken down into minions or combined into elites or solos.&nbsp; &nbsp; But you could have a pack of minions, an elite and a normal goblin and it would be equivalent to 4 normal monsters.Also consider that they have suggested that monsters will be viable opponents across a level range.&nbsp; With bab and saves advancing at 1/2 level, this makes more sense.&nbsp; There is a smaller jump in power for each level, so you don't have to feel terrible about throwing a boss monster who is at level +2 when compared to the PCs.&nbsp; [Under the current CR system, that monster would, in theory, be twice as powerful as a monster of just CR]</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Voss, post: 3936688, member: 57593"] More commonly, you'd mix them. I doubt you'd see a solo goblin, for example. That seems to be a special class reserved for beholders, dragons and special creatures of various natures. But the boss fight might include a whack of minions (whatever is equivalent to, say, 2 PCs) a couple normal goblins, and perhaps a goblin 'leader' who might be a level or two higher than the rest(and the PCs). In theory, monster levels will be balanced against the PC group as individuals. Not like CR is where a CR8 is good against a group of 4 8th level PCs, but rather a group of 4 8th level PCs has 4 8th level monster opponents that can be broken down into minions or combined into elites or solos. But you could have a pack of minions, an elite and a normal goblin and it would be equivalent to 4 normal monsters. Also consider that they have suggested that monsters will be viable opponents across a level range. With bab and saves advancing at 1/2 level, this makes more sense. There is a smaller jump in power for each level, so you don't have to feel terrible about throwing a boss monster who is at level +2 when compared to the PCs. [Under the current CR system, that monster would, in theory, be twice as powerful as a monster of just CR] [/QUOTE]

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