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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Dire Bare" data-source="post: 5723284" data-attributes="member: 18182">Heh, maybe I am just restating what you posted somewhat, but I don't think so.  Their explanation doesn't "satisfy" you, does that mean you disagree with the choice (which would be fair), or that you don't buy what they stated as the true, or full, reason (which, IMO, is an odd point of view) for the design decision?  That they are "holding back" something from us?  The latter position seems nonsensical to me, but I see similar sentiments pop up all the time here (not from you necessarily, just in general).You seem to be saying (and forgive me if I'm just being dense) that currently there are tons of ways to build the same (or similar) concepts in the 4E game, right now.  I'd disagree.  I mean, sure there's the whole vryloka/vampire thing, but I can't think of too many examples beyond that.  Well, other than the witch/warlock thing we're talking about.  You also feel that this approach is potentially problematic, "pros and cons".I'm getting at something different (well, again, I hope).  When it comes time to design the next book, let's say with a concept of fey folk who change into housecats, the designers could take the "housecat folk" concept and design it in many different ways.  It could be a race (as the "tuathan" began in design), it could be a feat chain, it could be a class (like the vampire), or it could be a theme (as it turns out in the Feywild book).  Wizards didn't provide us with "one million" ways to use this concept, they gave us "one" way.  But how they could have expressed the concept could have gone in different directions, and none of the potential design expressions would have necessarily been "wrong", just different.  We got the "tuathan", a theme of housecat people.  Would it have been better, or worse, if WotC had given us a tuathan race?  Or class?</blockquote>

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