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<blockquote data-quote="CapnZapp" data-source="post: 7353941" data-attributes="member: 12731">Remember I discussed scrolls a while back?<a href="http://www.enworld.org/forum/showthread.php?617363-Design-amp-Development-Magic-Item-Pricing&amp;p=7349872&amp;viewfull=1#post7349872" target="_blank">http://www.enworld.org/forum/showthread.php?617363-Design-amp-Development-Magic-Item-Pricing&amp;p=7349872&amp;viewfull=1#post7349872</a>Well, guess what. Let's kick-start the discussion with spell scrolls. That suggestion I made was essentially &quot;what if a bundle of spell scroll costs its level?&quot;Let me show you:[CODE]Item&nbsp; &nbsp; Level&nbsp; &nbsp; &quot;npc&quot;&nbsp; &nbsp; &quot;xp=gp&quot;&nbsp; &nbsp; &quot;typical&quot;1st&nbsp; &nbsp; 1&nbsp; &nbsp; 300&nbsp; &nbsp; 0&nbsp; &nbsp; 302nd&nbsp; &nbsp; 3&nbsp; &nbsp; 800&nbsp; &nbsp; 300&nbsp; &nbsp; 1003rd&nbsp; &nbsp; 5&nbsp; &nbsp; 1400&nbsp; &nbsp; 2200&nbsp; &nbsp; 14004th&nbsp; &nbsp; 7&nbsp; &nbsp; 2400&nbsp; &nbsp; 7700&nbsp; &nbsp; 36005th&nbsp; &nbsp; 9&nbsp; &nbsp; 4000&nbsp; &nbsp; 16000&nbsp; &nbsp; 59006th&nbsp; &nbsp; 11&nbsp; &nbsp; 7000&nbsp; &nbsp; 28300&nbsp; &nbsp; 158007th&nbsp; &nbsp; 13&nbsp; &nbsp; 11700&nbsp; &nbsp; 40000&nbsp; &nbsp; 279008th&nbsp; &nbsp; 15&nbsp; &nbsp; 19700&nbsp; &nbsp; 55000&nbsp; &nbsp; 400009th&nbsp; &nbsp; 17&nbsp; &nbsp; 33300&nbsp; &nbsp; 75000&nbsp; &nbsp; 127600[/CODE]Pretty neat, huh? (Obviously I'm using a spreadsheet here)Let's compare to Sane Magical Prices, shall we:[CODE]Item&nbsp; &nbsp; Cost&nbsp; &nbsp; Bundle1st&nbsp; &nbsp; 60&nbsp; &nbsp; 3002nd&nbsp; &nbsp; 120&nbsp; &nbsp; 6003rd&nbsp; &nbsp; 200&nbsp; &nbsp; 10004th&nbsp; &nbsp; 320&nbsp; &nbsp; 16005th&nbsp; &nbsp; 640&nbsp; &nbsp; 32006th&nbsp; &nbsp; 1280&nbsp; &nbsp; 64007th&nbsp; &nbsp; 2560&nbsp; &nbsp; 128008th&nbsp; &nbsp; 5120&nbsp; &nbsp; 256009th&nbsp; &nbsp; 10240&nbsp; &nbsp; 51200[/CODE](A &quot;bundle&quot; is five scrolls, again this 1/5th is an arbitrary fraction, chosen to be about midway between 1/10th and 1/2)I don't understand why Sane changed the formula of pricing scrolls compared to d20. Maybe because, at first blush, &quot;caster level&quot; does not appear to play a large role (effects does not automatically improve with character level)?Anyway, low level spell scrolls are given especially low prices in Sane relative to d20, and of course prices also start at a low level, allowing even mid-level characters to bathe in low-level scrolls. </blockquote>

[QUOTE="CapnZapp, post: 7353941, member: 12731"] Remember I discussed scrolls a while back? [url]http://www.enworld.org/forum/showthread.php?617363-Design-amp-Development-Magic-Item-Pricing&p=7349872&viewfull=1#post7349872[/url] Well, guess what. Let's kick-start the discussion with spell scrolls. That suggestion I made was essentially "what if a bundle of spell scroll costs its level?" Let me show you: [CODE]Item Level "npc" "xp=gp" "typical" 1st 1 300 0 30 2nd 3 800 300 100 3rd 5 1400 2200 1400 4th 7 2400 7700 3600 5th 9 4000 16000 5900 6th 11 7000 28300 15800 7th 13 11700 40000 27900 8th 15 19700 55000 40000 9th 17 33300 75000 127600 [/CODE] Pretty neat, huh? (Obviously I'm using a spreadsheet here) Let's compare to Sane Magical Prices, shall we: [CODE]Item Cost Bundle 1st 60 300 2nd 120 600 3rd 200 1000 4th 320 1600 5th 640 3200 6th 1280 6400 7th 2560 12800 8th 5120 25600 9th 10240 51200 [/CODE] (A "bundle" is five scrolls, again this 1/5th is an arbitrary fraction, chosen to be about midway between 1/10th and 1/2) [SIZE=1]I don't understand why Sane changed the formula of pricing scrolls compared to d20. Maybe because, at first blush, "caster level" does not appear to play a large role (effects does not automatically improve with character level)? Anyway, low level spell scrolls are given especially low prices in Sane relative to d20, and of course prices also start at a low level, allowing even mid-level characters to bathe in low-level scrolls. [/SIZE] [/QUOTE]

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