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<blockquote data-quote="ShinHakkaider" data-source="post: 3900403" data-attributes="member: 9213">Huh, I'm totally not a 4E booster but this quest card thing is actually a pretty good idea. I think that I might actually snatch this up. I use Item Cards for my games (both Paizo and TOGC) as well as Spell and monster cards. It's easier for my players ( and players in general seem to be a particularly focused and and also a forgetful lot. Meaning focused on one or two particular things and forgetful of most others...) to keep track of things. As an example, for my player who is a summoning based sorcerer I printed out a deck of Summoned Monster cards for each level of Summon Monster that he has access to. So now there's no flipping through the book to see what he can summon or having to jot down it's stats. It's on a card right in front of him. Is it metagamey, hell no. does it make things flow a little easier, hell yes. I really don't see how it's metagamey except if you have an really narrow (re:elitist) idea of what D&amp;D is and should be for everyone. And to be blunt, what works for your table, may not work for 60 different players at 20 different tables. I use cards and miniatures and props to enhance play not to turn it into a boardgame. If your players are easily distracted by these things then that has to do with your players (which is not saying anything bad about your players) not the game. and even if they are distracted initially after a while these things (cards and such) just become an accepted part of the game.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="ShinHakkaider, post: 3900403, member: 9213"] Huh, I'm totally not a 4E booster but this quest card thing is actually a pretty good idea. I think that I might actually snatch this up. I use Item Cards for my games (both Paizo and TOGC) as well as Spell and monster cards. It's easier for my players ( and players in general seem to be a particularly focused and and also a forgetful lot. Meaning focused on one or two particular things and forgetful of most others...) to keep track of things. As an example, for my player who is a summoning based sorcerer I printed out a deck of Summoned Monster cards for each level of Summon Monster that he has access to. So now there's no flipping through the book to see what he can summon or having to jot down it's stats. It's on a card right in front of him. Is it metagamey, hell no. does it make things flow a little easier, hell yes. I really don't see how it's metagamey except if you have an really narrow (re:elitist) idea of what D&D is and should be for everyone. And to be blunt, what works for your table, may not work for 60 different players at 20 different tables. I use cards and miniatures and props to enhance play not to turn it into a boardgame. If your players are easily distracted by these things then that has to do with your players (which is not saying anything bad about your players) not the game. and even if they are distracted initially after a while these things (cards and such) just become an accepted part of the game. [/QUOTE]

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