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<blockquote data-quote="Cadfan" data-source="post: 3826861" data-attributes="member: 40961">I disagree, particularly with the part highlighted.&nbsp; Necromancers were in the PHB in 3e.&nbsp; They were one amongst several types of wizards.&nbsp; Evil clerics were in the PHB, just dropped in like a normal, every day thing.The rules have for years encompassed despoiling corpses for personal gain, and worshipping a literal god of evil.&nbsp; DMs figured out how to handle this then, and I'm sure they'll figure out how to handle the warlock now.We just don't think about that because we're used to it.&nbsp; But when you really consider it, a spellcaster who makes a pact with a something &quot;infernal&quot; is arguably better than a cleric who worships Evil directly.&nbsp; Fantasy literature has plenty of good, or at least non evil, characters who consort with bad things to obtain magical powers.&nbsp; Imp familiars and demon summoning are common tropes.&nbsp; But I can't think of very many good-guy fantasy characters who dig up graves and create shambling horrors of their inhabitants, nor can I think of any actual worshippers of evil that were good guys deep down.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Cadfan, post: 3826861, member: 40961"] I disagree, particularly with the part highlighted. Necromancers were in the PHB in 3e. They were one amongst several types of wizards. Evil clerics were in the PHB, just dropped in like a normal, every day thing. The rules have for years encompassed despoiling corpses for personal gain, and worshipping a literal god of evil. DMs figured out how to handle this then, and I'm sure they'll figure out how to handle the warlock now. We just don't think about that because we're used to it. But when you really consider it, a spellcaster who makes a pact with a something "infernal" is arguably [I]better[/I] than a cleric who worships Evil directly. Fantasy literature has plenty of good, or at least non evil, characters who consort with bad things to obtain magical powers. Imp familiars and demon summoning are common tropes. But I can't think of very many good-guy fantasy characters who dig up graves and create shambling horrors of their inhabitants, nor can I think of any [I]actual worshippers of evil[/I] that were good guys deep down. [/QUOTE]

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