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<blockquote data-quote="SteveC" data-source="post: 3827099" data-attributes="member: 9053"><p>After taking a look at this, I'm going to seriously suggest that WotC take a look at the Warlock and tone down some of these abilities and take a look at the flavor behind it.</p><p></p><p>Is it because I'm scared of "dark" things? Not in the least. The reason for it is because we're only going to have a relatively small number of classes available in the core, and presumably in the SRD, and a class like this is simply not going to be as useful for games as some of the others that are getting moved to supplements. </p><p></p><p>Like it or not, the majority of D&D campaigns are heroic in nature, and the warlocks flavor (and some of the crunch) clashes with that. If you take a look at Organized Play in the RPGA (arguably one of the largest groups of gamers around) evil characters are banned, and evil actions are a quick ticket to having your character turned into an NPC.</p><p></p><p>I don't think it would be very hard to adjust the flavor of the class that much.</p><p></p><p>Now I'm not trying to say that any particular kind of campaign is bad, or that playing a warlock isn't a good thing, only that we have such a small number of "core at launch" classes, that do we really want to include one that is of questionable utility for many groups?</p><p></p><p>--Steve</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="SteveC, post: 3827099, member: 9053"] After taking a look at this, I'm going to seriously suggest that WotC take a look at the Warlock and tone down some of these abilities and take a look at the flavor behind it. Is it because I'm scared of "dark" things? Not in the least. The reason for it is because we're only going to have a relatively small number of classes available in the core, and presumably in the SRD, and a class like this is simply not going to be as useful for games as some of the others that are getting moved to supplements. Like it or not, the majority of D&D campaigns are heroic in nature, and the warlocks flavor (and some of the crunch) clashes with that. If you take a look at Organized Play in the RPGA (arguably one of the largest groups of gamers around) evil characters are banned, and evil actions are a quick ticket to having your character turned into an NPC. I don't think it would be very hard to adjust the flavor of the class that much. Now I'm not trying to say that any particular kind of campaign is bad, or that playing a warlock isn't a good thing, only that we have such a small number of "core at launch" classes, that do we really want to include one that is of questionable utility for many groups? --Steve [/QUOTE]
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