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<blockquote data-quote="Twowolves" data-source="post: 3828129" data-attributes="member: 18093"><p>I was unaware that I, personally, had called any specific person a name. Please indicate where I have.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Wrong. 100% wrong. Characters gain xp, and thereby levels, by overcoming challenges. Traps are challenges. Puzzles are challenges. Role-playing awards are too. It's entirely possible to use non-lethal damage to overcome those goblins and get to the next level. </p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Han Solo didn't get to be an ace pilot and crack shot by making a deal with a supernaturally evil power.</p><p></p><p>James Bond and Jack Bauer don't have any powers at all, and both work for their respective governments. They each believe what they do is for the greater good of their country (and their countries are not inherantly evil, despite what some say).</p><p></p><p>Wolverine was born with his powers long before the Weapon X project. He didn't volunteer for what was done to him. Or, maybe he did, I can't keep up with the retcons. But in any case, the hero he is now is not the sort that would do that. Same with Batman. He became a vigilante, but not a killer, and he didn't traffic with Lucifer to get his utility belt.</p><p></p><p>Boba Fett is not even a hero! Why is he on this list? Is is 100% villian. Bad Guy. Same with Lestat. I haven't read the books, but did see the first movie, and he's... well, a villian! He kills people and drinks their blood (well, not in that order).</p><p></p><p>Spawn is the ONLY one you listed that fits the description of Hero that gets his powers from dealing with the devil. But even he was tricked by the devil into accepting the deal, and he spends his time on earth trying to undo that deal and thwart the devil's plans. He certainly isn't phoning up Old Scratch every time he levels up for some more power/training.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Twowolves, post: 3828129, member: 18093"] I was unaware that I, personally, had called any specific person a name. Please indicate where I have. Wrong. 100% wrong. Characters gain xp, and thereby levels, by overcoming challenges. Traps are challenges. Puzzles are challenges. Role-playing awards are too. It's entirely possible to use non-lethal damage to overcome those goblins and get to the next level. Han Solo didn't get to be an ace pilot and crack shot by making a deal with a supernaturally evil power. James Bond and Jack Bauer don't have any powers at all, and both work for their respective governments. They each believe what they do is for the greater good of their country (and their countries are not inherantly evil, despite what some say). Wolverine was born with his powers long before the Weapon X project. He didn't volunteer for what was done to him. Or, maybe he did, I can't keep up with the retcons. But in any case, the hero he is now is not the sort that would do that. Same with Batman. He became a vigilante, but not a killer, and he didn't traffic with Lucifer to get his utility belt. Boba Fett is not even a hero! Why is he on this list? Is is 100% villian. Bad Guy. Same with Lestat. I haven't read the books, but did see the first movie, and he's... well, a villian! He kills people and drinks their blood (well, not in that order). Spawn is the ONLY one you listed that fits the description of Hero that gets his powers from dealing with the devil. But even he was tricked by the devil into accepting the deal, and he spends his time on earth trying to undo that deal and thwart the devil's plans. He certainly isn't phoning up Old Scratch every time he levels up for some more power/training. [/QUOTE]
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