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Message: <blockquote data-quote="grimslade" data-source="post: 3831600" data-attributes="member: 6061">Ok. I see the Infernal pact Warlock as being evil by your quote serving an evil master and all, but the Shadow and Feral may not be. If the patron of the warlock is not evil then the warlock killing non-innocents for them is ok by those definitions, right? The warlock is not a class that is going to substitute for a 1E paladin. I have never seen a rogue that fits that stricture well either. I could puzzle one out for both but it is a stretch. A chaotic good 'lock who serves Herne the Hunter to cull corruption from the Feywild's herd? I could see that. A Lawful Good 'lock who works for a Grim Reaper type entity to usher the souls of the dead through the Shadowfell to their ultimate destination works too.  There should be mechanics to support this flavor though and all we have seen are the infernal pacts powers. I hope that the Shadow and Feral are linked to the pact source rather than a good-evil axis. A summon the maw of the Great Bear to bite your foe or the chillng maw of the grave opens and pulls you foe into it for a round when the foe returns he is wounded by the reality of his mortality. Cheesy but differentiated enough to seperate the different pacts.We shall see what is to come.</blockquote>