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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Paraxis" data-source="post: 3832584" data-attributes="member: 13009">Let me try to explain my thoughts better, killing can be done for a good cause.  IMHO.Execution of convictied murderers, war fought against forces of evil, self defense, ect....A fighter is a professional killer it's what the class is all about, but who he kills, why he kills, and even how he kills makes a huge difference.  A soldier who is a sniper compared to a professional  hitman are completly different people or characters. The flavor of the Warlock suggests heavly to me that, his/her motivation for killing is to gain more power from the being the warlock made a pact with, in the case of atleast 1/3rd of them maybe more of these beings are all infernal powers of pure evil.  Shadow and Feral again to me don't sound much better.So a fighter who is a swashbuckler fighting for queen and country is vastly different then a warlock marking peoples souls and sending them to hell for a round and bringing them back.A sword swing is only as dark as the heart of the man swinging it.A blast of infernal hellfire is dark and evil no matter the motivations behind it because of where the power comes from.I think I have expressed everything I can on the matter, those of you who like warlock my feelings won't change that, just like your feelings won't change mine. I just wanted to express my disapointment with WoTC who up untile this fluff piece had me 100% for 4E, and it's still hard for me to understand why the logic of making a paladin be a warrior for any diety didn't get applied to the new version of the warlock it just makes no sense to me.I am still a 4E fanboy, and hope to have many enjoyable games with the system but I am unhappy about this class, and it's a major issue with me because a good section of the PHB will go to warlock powers just like to cleric and wizard spells, and it seems that the inclussion of the warlock pushed a more well rounded class out of the PHB.  IMHO the warlock belongs in the DMG or a splat book, maybe even PHB2 where planar power sources could be touched on.</blockquote>

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