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<blockquote data-quote="rabath" data-source="post: 4487726" data-attributes="member: 77859">Not to throw oil on a fire but....Th eenemy was struck to kill and was at - hp's. Then the enemy was healed on the basis that there had een no roll to save vs. death, which for important story line characters that consideration is fine.&nbsp;The other reason when the incident was discussed prior to healing taking place was that &quot;The definition of ally was a loose term and can apply to anyone as it suited&quot;.&nbsp;It was my dwarf fighter who struck the blow and I am not unhappy with the outcome, but also agree it needs clarification.&nbsp;I would after readin the PHB p57 and comments here suggest that in order to be a willing target, there must be either an active state (eg in the same party - normally unless stated otherwise willingness is probablya given) or a choice made by the target. An unconscious enemy can not make the choice to be a willing target therefore their status should not change.&nbsp;Or to paraphrase into a real world example - does silence mean acceptance? and then of course you have the counter arguement that in medical terms life saving treatment does not require active consent?&nbsp;Then the question becomes which is true - is a cleric comparable to doctor? and what if the celric worships a god of battle?&nbsp;I think the comparative of cleric to doctor is incorrect as the function of the cleric class is more than a mobile band aid dispenser in 4th ed.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="rabath, post: 4487726, member: 77859"] [b]Not to throw oil on a fire but....[/b] Th eenemy was struck to kill and was at - hp's. Then the enemy was healed on the basis that there had een no roll to save vs. death, which for important story line characters that consideration is fine. The other reason when the incident was discussed prior to healing taking place was that "The definition of ally was a loose term and can apply to anyone as it suited". It was my dwarf fighter who struck the blow and I am not unhappy with the outcome, but also agree it needs clarification. I would after readin the PHB p57 and comments here suggest that in order to be a willing target, there must be either an active state (eg in the same party - normally unless stated otherwise willingness is probablya given) or a choice made by the target. An unconscious enemy can not make the choice to be a willing target therefore their status should not change. Or to paraphrase into a real world example - does silence mean acceptance? and then of course you have the counter arguement that in medical terms life saving treatment does not require active consent? Then the question becomes which is true - is a cleric comparable to doctor? and what if the celric worships a god of battle? I think the comparative of cleric to doctor is incorrect as the function of the cleric class is more than a mobile band aid dispenser in 4th ed. [/QUOTE]

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