Reply to thread

Message

<blockquote data-quote="Voadam" data-source="post: 8450450" data-attributes="member: 2209">I don't think that follows from or matches up to the 4e World Axis cosmology.The Elemental Chaos is just there, it was not until the Shard of EVIL came into things that there was any specific evil in the Chaos. The Shard also turned the devils from divine astral angels of the god of man to Evil, but not Chaotic Evil. Asmodeus murdered his patron, changed himself and his followers to a new evil and overthrew the old order, but was not Chaotic Evil.The primordials versus the gods Dawn War was not a good versus evil situation with Chaotic Evil and Lawful Good at opposed poles. The Gods had lots of evil, including Chaotic Evil like Gruumsh. You can make an argument it was Chaos versus Law but not Chaotic Evil versus Lawful Good.Lawful Good is not particularly associated with anything in 4e. A couple specific gods seems to be about it.Most things in 4e are just there, the World just is, the Elemental Chaos just is, the Underdark is harsh with a lot of evil things in it but not actively evil until you cross paths with the Evil Torog. The Feywild is not specifically good or evil, just very fey. The Astral has every alignment in big ways with the specific god realms but no prevalance of anything over anything else. The shadowfell is a bit evil aspected from all the necrotic and undead but mostly just a depressing thing. The Abyss is the one realm of strong unidirectional alignment with strong corrupting evil.I feel you could do 4e world axis cosmology just as easily with nine point alignment.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Voadam, post: 8450450, member: 2209"] I don't think that follows from or matches up to the 4e World Axis cosmology. The Elemental Chaos is just there, it was not until the Shard of EVIL came into things that there was any specific evil in the Chaos. The Shard also turned the devils from divine astral angels of the god of man to Evil, but not Chaotic Evil. Asmodeus murdered his patron, changed himself and his followers to a new evil and overthrew the old order, but was not Chaotic Evil. The primordials versus the gods Dawn War was not a good versus evil situation with Chaotic Evil and Lawful Good at opposed poles. The Gods had lots of evil, including Chaotic Evil like Gruumsh. You can make an argument it was Chaos versus Law but not Chaotic Evil versus Lawful Good. Lawful Good is not particularly associated with anything in 4e. A couple specific gods seems to be about it. Most things in 4e are just there, the World just is, the Elemental Chaos just is, the Underdark is harsh with a lot of evil things in it but not actively evil until you cross paths with the Evil Torog. The Feywild is not specifically good or evil, just very fey. The Astral has every alignment in big ways with the specific god realms but no prevalance of anything over anything else. The shadowfell is a bit evil aspected from all the necrotic and undead but mostly just a depressing thing. The Abyss is the one realm of strong unidirectional alignment with strong corrupting evil. I feel you could do 4e world axis cosmology just as easily with nine point alignment. [/QUOTE]

Verification