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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Vaalingrade" data-source="post: 8450584" data-attributes="member: 82524">In 4e, Gruumish drunk drove his entire plane into someone else's to start a fight. I prefer he just be this really powerful jerk with no allegiance other than to being a bad father to the orcs based entirely on the 'these are my kids, I'll raise'em how I want mentality.Only in my version, the orcs grok to this and hate him for it instead of desperately acting out to get daddy's approval like they're trying to win an Oscar in the 1990's.Grummish is just hanging out in the wreckage of his plane, getting angrier and angrier that no orcs ever pray to him or accept his Facebook friend request.</blockquote>