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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Pax" data-source="post: 1594473" data-attributes="member: 6875">Halivar: nondetection spells are wonderful things.  ^_^  And in an actual campaign ... there'd be a lot more detaisl than I described in the (very rough) outline above.Like setting up soup kitchens, shelters for the homeless, free schools for children and youths; helping finance the maintenance of the city watch, clean up the streets, etc.  IOW, become pillars of the community, truly above legal reproach.  LET the do-gooders come ... and be arrested by the city watch, for harrassing respected and esteemed members of the city council, feverishly working on a *solution* for the plagues.  ^_^  Heck, paladins and churches of good would likely be among the first targets for slandering by the Bard/Evangelist, in order to erode or even eliminate common support.By showing the face of helpfulness and compassion to the commons, the evil guys have *willing* (duped) human shields to stand in the paladin's way.  What's he going to do, CUT his way through the (truly innocent) crowd of children protecting "Uncle Vallikas and his friends" ... ?  Well, then, say buh-bye to paladinhood right there; murdering innocents does not do a good-aligned body good.  ^_^As for after the fact ... well, by then, it's too late.  Once the control winds is up ... it's all over; it'd be a real miracle to even get NEAR the evil guys, then!</blockquote>