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Message: <blockquote data-quote="jbear" data-source="post: 5940829" data-attributes="member: 75065">That is not true.Advantage/Disadvantage?This is their first release for the CORE of the system. So much can still change (and it will), that's the point, right?And once there is a core, so much can be added in.With regards to the OPs suggestion, I don't mind the idea that a  spell is connected to a less powerful cantrip.Wouldn't it be simple enough to leave it at that? You learn Charm Person so you get access to the Charm cantrip which is basically a bonus to a roll in a social situation, +1 to Cha checks perhaps.You learn the Sleep spell, then you get access to the Doze cantrip which might have a low level humanoid lose a turn (like the Daze Cantrip from Pathfinder ... you see what I did there ...?)Of course you can't have all those Cantrips active in your head at once. They are connected with the spells you memorise that day. If you memorise sleep then you activate Doze, If you memorise Burning Hands then you activate Ignite etc.But that's as complex as I'd want it to get. Having to roll a spell check DC 11 every time you use it ... necessary?Having level 1.5 cantrips? Hmm ... again getting a little too complex, but I can see where you are going. The .5 level ones would be of a lesser power than those of the 1.5 level ones, perhaps getting up around the power that the playtest characters are currently wielding let's say. I don't mind that idea but how could we simplify it so it's real clean and easy?Maybe those linked cantrips which activate according to the lvl 1 spells are linked to similar vein level 2 spells which make the Cantrip slightly more powerful. Eg. Doze could effect slightly higher level creatures if the wizard has memorised the 2nd level 'improvement' of sleep (whatever that might be) or if thy memorised the 2nd level spell Hold Monster then Doze can affect non-humanoids ...In any case this level of complication would likely best be left out of the core and instead presented as an optional variation. I think they would do best to have the very core of the game kept as simple as possible.</blockquote>

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