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<blockquote data-quote="Tonguez" data-source="post: 419480" data-attributes="member: 1125"><p>Okay I'm the One Guy who say it only detects Creatures with Evil Subtype and not Evil alignments and I'll post the same argument here that I posted in the other thread (with some adjustments to address things raised here.</p><p></p><p>But first some reposnses to this thread</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>I think this is perfect support for my argument rather than against it. If the Spell detected alignment then why would Clerics of Evil Gods need to be specified since most will have evil alignments anyway? </p><p>And yes a Neutral Cleric will be detected by the Spell because of their association with the Evil God - its the association with the Evil God thats important NOT their alignment</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>The Spell clearly says it detects 'Evil Creatures' NOT Creatures with Evil Alignments</p><p></p><p>If you were asked to find an Aquatic Creature (like Sahuagin) then you would look for the Aquatic Subtype Descriptor, if you were asked to find a Fire Creature you would look for the Fire Descriptor ergo if you are looking for an Evil Creature then surely you look for the Evil Descriptor. I think Dash Dannigan brings up a good point with Teiflings too and imho a Neutral Tiefling with Evil Descriptor detects as Evil despite their alignment.</p><p></p><p></p><p><strong>Okay My Argument from the Other Thread</strong></p><p>Just because only Outsiders have been given an Evil Subtype doesn't mean they are the only ones who can have it.</p><p>It would be quite easy to say (for instance) that the Eye of Fear and Flame is an Undead with Evil Subtype or that the Bog Giant is a Evil Giant or theat the Hell Hound is an Evil Magical Beast (iirc there are Evil Elementals too)</p><p></p><p>Now an Aquatic Creature is a Creature with the Aquatic Subtype, a Fire Creature is one with the Fire Subtype ergo a Evil Creature must be one with the Evil Subtype</p><p></p><p>Afterall a Wizard who can cast fireball is not a Magical Fire Creature so why should his CE alignment make him an Evil Creature?...</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Tonguez, post: 419480, member: 1125"] Okay I'm the One Guy who say it only detects Creatures with Evil Subtype and not Evil alignments and I'll post the same argument here that I posted in the other thread (with some adjustments to address things raised here. But first some reposnses to this thread I think this is perfect support for my argument rather than against it. If the Spell detected alignment then why would Clerics of Evil Gods need to be specified since most will have evil alignments anyway? And yes a Neutral Cleric will be detected by the Spell because of their association with the Evil God - its the association with the Evil God thats important NOT their alignment The Spell clearly says it detects 'Evil Creatures' NOT Creatures with Evil Alignments If you were asked to find an Aquatic Creature (like Sahuagin) then you would look for the Aquatic Subtype Descriptor, if you were asked to find a Fire Creature you would look for the Fire Descriptor ergo if you are looking for an Evil Creature then surely you look for the Evil Descriptor. I think Dash Dannigan brings up a good point with Teiflings too and imho a Neutral Tiefling with Evil Descriptor detects as Evil despite their alignment. [b]Okay My Argument from the Other Thread[/b] Just because only Outsiders have been given an Evil Subtype doesn't mean they are the only ones who can have it. It would be quite easy to say (for instance) that the Eye of Fear and Flame is an Undead with Evil Subtype or that the Bog Giant is a Evil Giant or theat the Hell Hound is an Evil Magical Beast (iirc there are Evil Elementals too) Now an Aquatic Creature is a Creature with the Aquatic Subtype, a Fire Creature is one with the Fire Subtype ergo a Evil Creature must be one with the Evil Subtype Afterall a Wizard who can cast fireball is not a Magical Fire Creature so why should his CE alignment make him an Evil Creature?... [/QUOTE]
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