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<blockquote data-quote="Parlan" data-source="post: 1403695" data-attributes="member: 16808"><p>Is it? I thought the PHB described Alignment as intentionality-based: Evil persons are willing to kill for personal gain” etc.</p><p></p><p>Especially if you want to have more “real-world” like alignment issues (or at least more shades of gray), I think this is the key.</p><p></p><p>“Will Bob steal a loaf of bread to feed his starving children?” (Stupid question, almost everyone would.)</p><p></p><p>But, “if a guard catches Bob in the act of stealing, and Bob is likely to go to prison, would he be willing to kill the guard to escape?”</p><p></p><p>If Bob is willing to do this he is Evil, and will detect as such. He still hasn’t killed, but he WOULD be willing to. </p><p></p><p>If a Pally killed Bob purely on the basis of his alignment, they should fall from grace. </p><p></p><p>1.Bob hasn t committed any crimes yet. Maybe he never will. He has a potential to commit crimes.</p><p></p><p>2. He also has a potential to be redeemed. Maybe he’ll change his way of thinking and become Good. And wouldn’t that be nice?</p><p></p><p>Obviously this puts a bigger burden on the DM, but if only [Evil] creatures (i.e., irredeemably Evil creatures) are Evil, than there can be no redemption, and that would make some of the best stories impossible to tell...</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Parlan, post: 1403695, member: 16808"] Is it? I thought the PHB described Alignment as intentionality-based: Evil persons are willing to kill for personal gain” etc. Especially if you want to have more “real-world” like alignment issues (or at least more shades of gray), I think this is the key. “Will Bob steal a loaf of bread to feed his starving children?” (Stupid question, almost everyone would.) But, “if a guard catches Bob in the act of stealing, and Bob is likely to go to prison, would he be willing to kill the guard to escape?” If Bob is willing to do this he is Evil, and will detect as such. He still hasn’t killed, but he WOULD be willing to. If a Pally killed Bob purely on the basis of his alignment, they should fall from grace. 1.Bob hasn t committed any crimes yet. Maybe he never will. He has a potential to commit crimes. 2. He also has a potential to be redeemed. Maybe he’ll change his way of thinking and become Good. And wouldn’t that be nice? Obviously this puts a bigger burden on the DM, but if only [Evil] creatures (i.e., irredeemably Evil creatures) are Evil, than there can be no redemption, and that would make some of the best stories impossible to tell... [/QUOTE]
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