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<blockquote data-quote="steeldragons" data-source="post: 6625885" data-attributes="member: 92511">Asked and answered...I thought.Me personally? I would be like &quot;huh? So where's its source of negative energy coming from? Maybe it's powered some other way.&quot; I would ask questions of my DM -via the actions of my character in the game world, if I really cared so much- until I had some kind of suitable, or at least interesting, answer.But then, I would never use Detect Magic to try to detect undead. I would expect my cleric or paladin to let me know if that was something to worry about...and if I were alone and there was an unmoving skeleton in the corner...I would watch it for a minute...see if it moved or not...and then, my character would assume it is not undead. Then my character would be frightened and/or surprised when it moved to attack me...and &quot;should I have detected magic? Would it detect as magic?&quot; would never cross my mind because I am just trying to stay alive at that point.Well, as you said, everyone has their own tolerance. But a DM ruling that Detect Magic doesn't show a gargoyle (or an undead) is the DM's call to make. They get to decide where the &quot;make-it-up nonsense&quot; line is. If you perceive their reasons and rulings as &quot;make-it-up nonsense&quot; that's...well, just too bad, really. You can go along with it or, if that ruins the game/breaks disbelief for you, then you can bow out of that game.I don't know what else to tell you. But individual players don't get to decide what is or is not &quot;real/real enough/makes sense&quot; in the game world. How magic and spells and, well, everything works is what a DM interpreting what's in the core books is for. They are the referee and arbiter. They decide.For me, if the next time I was going into a room with gargoyles in it and my Detect Magic spamming&nbsp; [which would not be allowed in my games anyway] DID reveal them, then might raise an eyebrow and point it out. Or I would think &quot;Oh SNAP!* Something's wrong/up here! Why are they detecting as magic...they didn't before.&quot; If the DM's response is &quot;Oh right. Yeah. I forgot. Nevermind.&quot; Then we rewind a bit and carry on. If the DM's answer is &quot;Yeah, that's weird, huh?&quot; then the game, in fact, is afoot!*Ok. I wouldn't actually think &quot;Oh SNAP&quot; as I do not speak or think in urban-slang other than for comedic effect. But you get the point.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="steeldragons, post: 6625885, member: 92511"] Asked and answered...I thought. Me personally? I would be like "huh? So where's its source of negative energy coming from? Maybe it's powered some other way." I would ask questions of my DM -via the actions of my character in the game world, if I really cared so much- until I had some kind of suitable, or at least interesting, answer. But then, I would never use Detect Magic to try to detect undead. I would expect my cleric or paladin to let me know if that was something to worry about...and if I were alone and there was an unmoving skeleton in the corner...I would watch it for a minute...see if it moved or not...and then, my character would assume it is not undead. Then my character would be frightened and/or surprised when it moved to attack me...and "should I have detected magic? Would it detect as magic?" would never cross my mind because I am just trying to stay alive at that point. Well, as you said, everyone has their own tolerance. But a DM ruling that Detect Magic doesn't show a gargoyle (or an undead) is the DM's call to make. They get to decide where the "make-it-up nonsense" line is. If you perceive their reasons and rulings as "make-it-up nonsense" that's...well, just too bad, really. You can go along with it or, if that ruins the game/breaks disbelief for you, then you can bow out of that game. I don't know what else to tell you. But individual players don't get to decide what is or is not "real/real enough/makes sense" in the game world. How magic and spells and, well, everything works is what a DM interpreting what's in the core books is for. They are the referee and arbiter. They decide. For me, if the next time I was going into a room with gargoyles in it and my Detect Magic spamming [which would not be allowed in my games anyway] DID reveal them, then might raise an eyebrow and point it out. Or I would think "Oh SNAP!* Something's wrong/up here! Why are they detecting as magic...they didn't before." If the DM's response is "Oh right. Yeah. I forgot. Nevermind." Then we rewind a bit and carry on. If the DM's answer is "Yeah, that's weird, huh?" then the game, in fact, is afoot! *[SIZE=1]Ok. I wouldn't actually think "Oh SNAP" as I do not speak or think in urban-slang other than for comedic effect. But you get the point.[/SIZE] [/QUOTE]

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