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Message: <blockquote data-quote="KarinsDad" data-source="post: 6626581" data-attributes="member: 2011">Tell that to the super angry player who (as explained later to me by other players) was that he was mad not because he didn't find the trap, but because he didn't even get a roll (this was actually in a Champions super hero game where the NPCs had used desolidification to place a bomb inside the housing of the space craft's engine, so the PC searching had no special sense powers or searching ability that would have allowed him to find the bomb).As per the OP's table, people can get really annoyed when they try to avoid/minimize a DM designed event and they still get caught in it. Rational explanations do not always work when someone is ticked off.</blockquote>