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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Whimsical" data-source="post: 2128330" data-attributes="member: 3976">I have posted <a href="http://forums.rpghost.com/showpost.php?p=57859&postcount=6" target="_blank">tactics against invisible opponents</a> in the past, but it was mainly for DMs.I'll select some ideas for you from that extensive posting.Rules to keep in mind: The <a href="http://www.systemreferencedocuments.org/35/theraven_stephenh/skills/LISTEN.html" target="_blank">Listen</a> check for people talking (casting a spell) or a melee attack is DC 0 plus distance ("distance" = +1 per 10 feet). If the invisible creature moves, the DC to hear him is set by his crappy <a href="http://www.systemreferencedocuments.org/35/theraven_stephenh/skills/MOVE_SILENTLY.html" target="_blank">Move Silently</a> skill + distance. -4 if he is moving more than half his speed. If you make your Listen check, you know there's an invisible attacker around and you can prepare yourself (see below). If you make it by 10, you know the direction where he is and you can toss area effect attacks that direction, or at least move closer. If you make your listen check by 20, you can pinpoint his location and attack him directly, but he still gets full <a href="http://www.systemreferencedocuments.org/35/theraven_stephenh/combat/CONCEALMENT.html" target="_blank">concealment</a> is is specified in the DMG 3.5, pg. 32 under Degreess of Success. Keep these rules in mind if you find yourself blinded or fighting in darkness. The <a href="http://www.systemreferencedocuments.org/35/theraven_stephenh/ctypes/INVISIBILITY.html" target="_blank">Invisibility</a> section on pg. 295 describes how to use <a href="http://www.systemreferencedocuments.org/35/theraven_stephenh/skills/SPOT.html" target="_blank">Spot</a> in this manner also.Maybe you has an animal, either a normal trained animal or a familiar, animal companion, or special mount with <a href="http://www.systemreferencedocuments.org/35/theraven_stephenh/ctypes/Scent.html" target="_blank">Scent</a> that he can use to reveal the location of an invisible attacker. A bat or pseudodragon familiar with <a href="http://www.systemreferencedocuments.org/35/theraven_stephenh/ctypes/Blindsense.html" target="_blank">Blindsense</a> would be best, but mounts such as horses, ponies, riding dogs, and mules; and familiars like cats, rats, snakes, weasels, ferrets, and mice have Scent. Imps can See in Darkness.  Owls have +14 on their Listen checks and +14 Spot checks in areas of shadowy illumination. Hawks have +14 to Spot. If you can talk to your intelligent animal friend, he can direct you to where the enemy is. Else give the "Attack!" command and watch where they go.You can also summon creatures that can locate invisible attackers and then attack them. <a href="http://www.systemreferencedocuments.org/35/theraven_stephenh/spells/Summon_Swarm.html" target="_blank">Summon Swarm</a> is great for this, especially if you summon bats. But summoning a dog or a pack of dogs works also. Scorpions and spiders have <a href="http://www.systemreferencedocuments.org/35/theraven_stephenh/ctypes/Tremorsense.html" target="_blank">Tremorsense</a> nowadays. Certain celestials and fiends can cast <a href="http://www.systemreferencedocuments.org/35/theraven_stephenh/spells/See_Invisibility.html" target="_blank">See Invisiblility</a>. Porpoises and Sharks are great against underwater invisible enemies.</blockquote>

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