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<blockquote data-quote="the_mighty_agrippa" data-source="post: 3354558" data-attributes="member: 6297">So, we nearly had a TPK last Sunday because the DM basically refuses to tell you if something is undead.&nbsp; We have an undead killing priest in the party with maxed out ranks in relevant knowledge skills and from a sun-worshipping church that specializes in killing undead.&nbsp; We get attacked by a group of undead girallons.PCs &quot;Are they undead?&quot;DM&nbsp; &quot;You can't tell.&quot;PCs &quot;Waitaminute - old dude here is the undead killing master hunter killer.&quot;DM&nbsp; &quot;How can you guys tell?&nbsp; They look like apes.&nbsp; They charge and initiate grapple.&quot;*fail* fail* *fail*One full round of attacks later, we have three dead characters because the fighters were engaged on the other side with an advanced fiendish black pudding.These aren't vampires or liches; they are undead apes.&nbsp; Am I in the wrong here?&nbsp; I don't think so.[/end rant]</blockquote>

[QUOTE="the_mighty_agrippa, post: 3354558, member: 6297"] So, we nearly had a TPK last Sunday because the DM basically refuses to tell you if something is undead. We have an undead killing priest in the party with maxed out ranks in relevant knowledge skills and from a sun-worshipping church that specializes in killing undead. We get attacked by a group of undead girallons. PCs "Are they undead?" DM "You can't tell." PCs "Waitaminute - old dude here is the undead killing master hunter killer." DM "How can you guys tell? They look like apes. They charge and initiate grapple." *fail* fail* *fail* One full round of attacks later, we have three dead characters because the fighters were engaged on the other side with an advanced fiendish black pudding. These aren't vampires or liches; they are undead apes. Am I in the wrong here? I don't think so. [/end rant] [/QUOTE]

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