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Message: <blockquote data-quote="edwee" data-source="post: 6032139" data-attributes="member: 6668658">I've been making my own monsters for my gestalt campaign, and for the most part, I've been pretty good about determining CR for my creatures, however this next one is supposed to be a glass cannon of a beast, and this is making it difficult to determine its cr. its stats are;MONSTERMedium native Outsider (gestalt bear totem barbarian(whirling frenzy)/outsiderHit Dice 5d8-7Initiative +5Speed 50 FeetArmor Class 19 (+5 dex +2 Natural, +2 dodge)Base attack Grapple 5/18Attack Bite +13 1d6+7+paralysisDC 12(1d6 rounds) and 3 claws +5 1d4+3+Dermal CreepSpace/Reach 5/5Special AttacksDermal Creep - injury Poision DC 10. initial damage 1d3 str damage, secondary damage 1d4 Con. the DC is CON Based. Whirling Frenzy (+4 str, +2 Dodge, +2 Reflex(already figured into stats)). Spell absorbation (when a spell fails to penetrate its SR, the MONSTER absorbs the energy of the spell, similar to the effect of the spellwarped template.)Special Qualities - SR 20 (15+HD). Frail Body (when gestated, use smaller hd, if not gestalted, reduce the HD size by 2 to a minimum of 1hp per level)Saves - fort +4, Reflex +9, Will, +5Abilities - str 21 dex 20 con 6 int 10 wis 12 cha 18skills hide +10 move silently +10, listen +6feats toughness, improved grapple, great fortitude, weapon focus bite, ability focus, paraylisis.Enviorment - underground, or encysted areasOrganization - single or clutch (1d6+2)CR - ???treasure - noneAlignment - Neutral EvilAdvancement - by classI was thinking that this is somewhere in the CR 6 to 8 range. but then again, im pretty terrible at gauging CR, so could i get some help from some people.</blockquote>

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