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<blockquote data-quote="Hypersmurf" data-source="post: 3043425" data-attributes="member: 1656"><p>Right. It's why some spells have an important "minimum of 1" note - Divine Favor, as an example.</p><p></p><p>"Calling upon the strength and wisdom of a deity, you gain a +1 luck bonus on attack and weapon damage rolls for every three caster levels you have (at least +1, maximum +3)."</p><p></p><p>If the 'at least +1' note did not appear, the spell - castable at 1st level - would do nothing until 3rd level.</p><p></p><p>At CL 1: How many 'three caster levels' do you have? None. +0.</p><p>At CL 2: How many 'three caster levels' do you have? None. +0.</p><p>At CL 3: How many 'three caster levels' do you have? One. +1.</p><p>At CL 4: How many 'three caster levels' do you have? One. +1.</p><p>At CL 5: How many 'three caster levels' do you have? One. +1.</p><p>At CL 6: How many 'three caster levels' do you have? Two. +2.</p><p></p><p>Fortunately, the 'at least +1' clause means CL1 and CL2 actually see some benefit.</p><p></p><p>GMW has no such clause, so if, for example, an Ur-Priest casts the spell at caster level 3 (I'd need to check the maths, but I believe it's possible), he will actually obtain a +0 bonus from it.</p><p></p><p>-Hyp.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Hypersmurf, post: 3043425, member: 1656"] Right. It's why some spells have an important "minimum of 1" note - Divine Favor, as an example. "Calling upon the strength and wisdom of a deity, you gain a +1 luck bonus on attack and weapon damage rolls for every three caster levels you have (at least +1, maximum +3)." If the 'at least +1' note did not appear, the spell - castable at 1st level - would do nothing until 3rd level. At CL 1: How many 'three caster levels' do you have? None. +0. At CL 2: How many 'three caster levels' do you have? None. +0. At CL 3: How many 'three caster levels' do you have? One. +1. At CL 4: How many 'three caster levels' do you have? One. +1. At CL 5: How many 'three caster levels' do you have? One. +1. At CL 6: How many 'three caster levels' do you have? Two. +2. Fortunately, the 'at least +1' clause means CL1 and CL2 actually see some benefit. GMW has no such clause, so if, for example, an Ur-Priest casts the spell at caster level 3 (I'd need to check the maths, but I believe it's possible), he will actually obtain a +0 bonus from it. -Hyp. [/QUOTE]
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