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<blockquote data-quote="kreynolds" data-source="post: 488004" data-attributes="member: 2829"><p>You misunderstand. I wasn't actually trying to get you to see this from my perspective, rather it was more an attempt to get you to see it as the DMG is written. That's all. What you do with it from there, whether or not you use it or create house rules, is up to you.</p><p></p><p>Also, it wasn't an interpretation. I stated what was in the DMG. Now, my opinions were in there as well, such as why I think that passage is written as such (i.e. ease of placement, accuracy) and why I think it should be followed (i.e. yielding inaccurate area results, areas that could be bigger than they are meant too.)</p><p></p><p>Here's an example why the DMG suggests using intersecting lines. Antimagic Field is a 10-foot radius emanation (this equates to 20-feet in diameter). If you plop that down in the center of a square, one of two things will happen...</p><p></p><p>1) Following the majority of effected square rule, you will actually end up with a 25-foot diameter (12.5-foot radius), not a 20-foot diameter (10-foot radius). The text of Antimagic Field states it is a 10-foot radius, not a 12.5. That's pretty much the bottom line there.</p><p></p><p>2) If you want to stick with the text of Antimagic Field, but you still want to place the origin in the center of a square, you need to adhoc how you determine who is effected in those half-covered squares, for one is automatically effected, your spell area is too big again, beyond what is stated in the spell itself. So, how do you determine who is and is not effect in the half-effected square when the majority of the square is not covered, meaning it is essentially split right down the middle? Adhoc. That's how.</p><p></p><p>So, if you stray from that passage in the DMG, you not only have to adhoc the placement of spells, but now you have to adhoc every single burst, emananation, ,spread, cone, etc area spell that gets plopped down one the grid.</p><p></p><p>All I'm saying is that the DMG suggests what it does so that you don't have to adhoc the multitude of spells as they get placed on the grid. So, really, its not so much a question of what does the DMG state, since that's plainly clear, and neither is it a question of what the Antimagic Field spell states, for that is clear as well. Instead, its more a question of "How much time do you have?" <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>So I guess this means Feuermann will be tapping his foot alot in the coming sessions? <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f609.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=";)" title="Wink ;)" data-smilie="2"data-shortname=";)" /></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="kreynolds, post: 488004, member: 2829"] You misunderstand. I wasn't actually trying to get you to see this from my perspective, rather it was more an attempt to get you to see it as the DMG is written. That's all. What you do with it from there, whether or not you use it or create house rules, is up to you. Also, it wasn't an interpretation. I stated what was in the DMG. Now, my opinions were in there as well, such as why I think that passage is written as such (i.e. ease of placement, accuracy) and why I think it should be followed (i.e. yielding inaccurate area results, areas that could be bigger than they are meant too.) Here's an example why the DMG suggests using intersecting lines. Antimagic Field is a 10-foot radius emanation (this equates to 20-feet in diameter). If you plop that down in the center of a square, one of two things will happen... 1) Following the majority of effected square rule, you will actually end up with a 25-foot diameter (12.5-foot radius), not a 20-foot diameter (10-foot radius). The text of Antimagic Field states it is a 10-foot radius, not a 12.5. That's pretty much the bottom line there. 2) If you want to stick with the text of Antimagic Field, but you still want to place the origin in the center of a square, you need to adhoc how you determine who is effected in those half-covered squares, for one is automatically effected, your spell area is too big again, beyond what is stated in the spell itself. So, how do you determine who is and is not effect in the half-effected square when the majority of the square is not covered, meaning it is essentially split right down the middle? Adhoc. That's how. So, if you stray from that passage in the DMG, you not only have to adhoc the placement of spells, but now you have to adhoc every single burst, emananation, ,spread, cone, etc area spell that gets plopped down one the grid. All I'm saying is that the DMG suggests what it does so that you don't have to adhoc the multitude of spells as they get placed on the grid. So, really, its not so much a question of what does the DMG state, since that's plainly clear, and neither is it a question of what the Antimagic Field spell states, for that is clear as well. Instead, its more a question of "How much time do you have?" :) So I guess this means Feuermann will be tapping his foot alot in the coming sessions? ;) [/QUOTE]
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