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Message: <blockquote data-quote="mamba" data-source="post: 8968833" data-attributes="member: 7034611">care to provide a link? From what I saw they had maybe 100k subscribers, enough to be profitable with it, not enough to keep going and trying to find a new audience. I did not say it was not profitable, but sales did drop off a cliff very fast and the essentials line could not save it either.That is why eg the planned 4e DL never materialized.There is a reason why they revamped 4e 2 years into it and the whole edition lasted 4 years only, and it is not its overwhelming successno, same as 4e, and the evidence against 4e’s success is pretty much all of it. It jumpstarted Pathfinder, they tried to salvage 4e two years into it (faster than for any other edition) and gave up 4 years into it (again faster than for any other edition), scrapping planned settings like DL altogether. None of this points to a successful edition that just did not meet outsized expectationsyeah, I have seen what they said, it is entirely unconvincing to me (eg that 4e outsold 3e, but that statement was made maybe 2 months into the edition, so tells us nothing except for the initial sales). So unless you have something new I haven’t seen, I stick to my conclusions based on what I do have seen (and the fact that it was killed off so fast).I said I am not interested in discussing this because it is futile, and not because I am not interested in relevant information. I just doubt you have any I have not heard before</blockquote>

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