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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Ashrym" data-source="post: 8969484" data-attributes="member: 6750235">I don't think only 4 schools is the real issue with bards.  4 schools can give reasonably useful spells.  What annoyed me was bards felt railroaded into a certain style of bard and lost the variety in the spell list that existed for other styles of bards.I just posted in another thread that I find letting a bard choose their spell list (arcane, divine, or primal) at 1st level, start with divination and enchantment schools in that list plus to schools of their choice other than evocation, and use the current song of rest instead of adding spells prepped through songs of rest still limits the spell list but maintains the variety of build choiceThat works better for me with the spell lists.Magical secrets adds quite a bit at higher levels to flesh out that initial style more.Something else I don't care for is basing an entire group of classes around the expertise feature because that's not really a strong feature in the first place and I expect it to continue to be granted to other classes through feats or features.It feels like your supposition of a supposition was conjured out of thin air, lol.  ;-)</blockquote>