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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Indaarys" data-source="post: 8971716" data-attributes="member: 7040941">Sometimes I think people hear stories about the community being shocked and chagrined at certains things and then just take it as gospel despite the context being entirely different.Like for instance with 4E, which while it never did the gangbusters 5E did, wasn't ever as universally disliked as people would have you believe, and the people constantly coming out of the woodwork singing that editions praises is a testament to that.Another example is 5Es rather poor DM support. This wasn't actually all that big of a problem in 2014, because it was intended that DMs would already be experienced given 5E was meant to be a return to form, rather than yet another full paradigm shift that had to teach people how to play like 4E had to (whether it did it well or not).But several years removed, thousands of brand new DMs coming around and the game is scant to support them, and people just aggressively assert that 5E is terrible because it didn't do something it was never intended to do.So perverse is that assertion that people learn to just not read the DMG because they hear memes going "DMG BAD" and thus they assume it has no useful info.Its a poorly organized book that doesn't make it clear you're supposed to use the PHB in tandem with it to learn how to DM, but that doesn't make the info it has worthless. So, so, so many problems people have with 5e can be solved by just reading it instead of blindly trusting memes that have been long since removed from their original context.</blockquote>

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