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<blockquote data-quote="Emberashh" data-source="post: 8974111" data-attributes="member: 7040941"><p>And without knowing where the feedback is actually coming from we really can't say either way. But if what they gave us in the UA is an indication of what that feedback said, then there's a problem.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Its not hyperbole. Its an observation.</p><p></p><p></p><p>I would hope not, but Im not arguing with WOTC. Im arguing with people who are citing Beyond as the reason for all of this.</p><p></p><p>Its important to acknowledge the context that this comment chain started with. I disputed that this existed as a problem prior to this UA, and all anyone can point to to say otherwise is Beyond statistics that, as noted, are very suspect and do not correlate with any of the trends with this game at all.</p><p></p><p>And thats <em>with</em> the Beyond data supposedly being controlled for the fact that Beyond offers all the SRD subclasses for free accounts, so the data says that overwhelmingly it is those subclasses that are the most popular even with people who have the later content.</p><p></p><p>I do not buy this, at all, and is why Im arguing against the people asserting it as proof positive that theres some dire issue with the Druid that has to be corrected.</p><p></p><p>And that incidentally is also why I came at it from the other angle of assuming that the Beyond data is accurate, and arguing that just because its least played doesn't actually indicate a problem, which is further supported by my original observation that there just isn't any complaints about this at all anywhere that I can find; they literally did not exist until this UA. By no means is my searching comprehensive, but surely if theres a problem here, <em>somebody</em> would have commented on it at some point before this month.</p><p></p><p>If I can look at a subreddit thats known to be extraordinarily critical of 5e and I can only find one 7 year old post that even talks about it, <em>then where the hell did this problem actually come from?</em></p><p></p><p>Cause its not like Druids aren't talked about; no sir, theres just as much to talk about with Druids as anything else in the game, and its recognized variously from solid all the way up to totally overpowered. But never, before this month, is it ever talked about in the way it is now.</p><p></p><p>I don't buy this, and Im pretty firm on it because I had this same reaction the day they dropped the UA and people were flipping their gourd over it. </p><p></p><p>Something is fishy, and given what else we've seen that goes so utterly against whats understood to be good about the game, I still maintain the tail is wagging the dog.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Emberashh, post: 8974111, member: 7040941"] And without knowing where the feedback is actually coming from we really can't say either way. But if what they gave us in the UA is an indication of what that feedback said, then there's a problem. Its not hyperbole. Its an observation. I would hope not, but Im not arguing with WOTC. Im arguing with people who are citing Beyond as the reason for all of this. Its important to acknowledge the context that this comment chain started with. I disputed that this existed as a problem prior to this UA, and all anyone can point to to say otherwise is Beyond statistics that, as noted, are very suspect and do not correlate with any of the trends with this game at all. And thats [I]with[/I] the Beyond data supposedly being controlled for the fact that Beyond offers all the SRD subclasses for free accounts, so the data says that overwhelmingly it is those subclasses that are the most popular even with people who have the later content. I do not buy this, at all, and is why Im arguing against the people asserting it as proof positive that theres some dire issue with the Druid that has to be corrected. And that incidentally is also why I came at it from the other angle of assuming that the Beyond data is accurate, and arguing that just because its least played doesn't actually indicate a problem, which is further supported by my original observation that there just isn't any complaints about this at all anywhere that I can find; they literally did not exist until this UA. By no means is my searching comprehensive, but surely if theres a problem here, [I]somebody[/I] would have commented on it at some point before this month. If I can look at a subreddit thats known to be extraordinarily critical of 5e and I can only find one 7 year old post that even talks about it, [I]then where the hell did this problem actually come from?[/I] Cause its not like Druids aren't talked about; no sir, theres just as much to talk about with Druids as anything else in the game, and its recognized variously from solid all the way up to totally overpowered. But never, before this month, is it ever talked about in the way it is now. I don't buy this, and Im pretty firm on it because I had this same reaction the day they dropped the UA and people were flipping their gourd over it. Something is fishy, and given what else we've seen that goes so utterly against whats understood to be good about the game, I still maintain the tail is wagging the dog. [/QUOTE]
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