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<blockquote data-quote="steeldragons" data-source="post: 6366109" data-attributes="member: 92511"><p><span style="color: #000000"><em><img src="http://www.enworld.org/forum/images/misc/quote_icon.png" alt="" class="fr-fic fr-dii fr-draggable " data-size="" style="" /> Originally Posted by steeldragons <a href="http://www.enworld.org/forum/showthread.php?p=6365652#post6365652" target="_blank"><img src="http://www.enworld.org/forum/images/buttons/viewpost-right.png" alt="" class="fr-fic fr-dii fr-draggable " data-size="" style="" /></a></em></span></p><p><span style="color: #000000"><em>That is disappointing to hear.</em></span></p><p><span style="color: #000000"><em></em></span></p><p><span style="color: #000000"><em>Well, nothing else to do about it then...lessee...</em></span></p><p><span style="color: #000000"><em></em></span></p><p><span style="color: #000000"><em><span style="font-size: 12px"><strong>Lesser Devils</strong></span></em></span></p><p><span style="color: #000000"><em><strong>All Lesser Devils automatically: Detect Magic, Detect Invisibility, Tongues</strong></em></span></p><p><span style="color: #000000"><em><strong>At will, </strong><span style="color: #ff0000">any 3 of the following</span><strong>:</strong> Detect Thoughts, Minor Image, Produce Flame, <span style="color: #FF0000">Cause Fear, Putrify Food/Water. </span></em></span></p><p><span style="color: #000000"><em><strong>+3 from the following list:</strong> Change Self; Invisibility; Fire Bolt or Ray of Frost; Darkness Sphere; Mirror Image; Levitate; <span style="color: #ff0000">Heat/Chill Metal [doesn't work on cold iron]; Stinking Cloud</span></em></span></p><p><span style="color: #000000"><em><strong>+1 of the following <em>once per day</em>: </strong>Wall of Fire or Ice, Fireball or Icestorm, Phantasmal Killer, Dimension Door, Major Image, Lightning Bolt </em></span></p><p><span style="color: #000000"><em></em></span></p><p><span style="color: #000000"><em><span style="color: #ff0000"><strong>Resistances & Immunities:</strong></span></em></span></p><p><span style="color: #000000"><em><span style="color: #ff0000"><strong>Immunity to:</strong></span> non-magic weapons, silver/silvered weapons, enchantment/charm spells & effects, poison, natural fire, natural cold. </em></span></p><p><span style="color: #000000"><em><span style="color: #ff0000"><strong>Resistance [Half Damage]:</strong> </span>magical fire, magical cold, natural lightning</em></span></p><p><span style="color: #000000"><em><span style="color: #ff0000"><strong>Full Damage:</strong> </span>magic weapons, cold iron/cold iron weapons, magic force/energy (e.g. magic missile), magical lightning, acid</em></span></p><p><span style="color: #000000"><em></em></span></p><p><span style="color: #000000"><em>mhm..mhm..yep. All fixed. [EDIT: reviews. sees need to amend/stipulate times per day. added with emphasis /EDIT]</em></span></p><p><span style="color: #000000"><em></em></span></p><p><span style="color: #000000"><em></em></span></p><p><span style="color: #000000"></span></p><p><span style="color: #000000"><em></em></span></p><p><span style="color: #000000"><em><span style="font-size: 12px"><strong>Greater Devils</strong><span style="font-size: 10px"> (off the top of my head: Malebranche/"Horned", Ice and Pit Fiends...but there might be others I don't know/recall at the moment)</span></span></em></span></p><p><span style="color: #000000"><em><strong>All Greater Devils automatically:</strong> Detect Magic, Detect Invisibility, Tongues, <em>Cause Fear, Darkness Sphere, Detect Thoughts</em><strong></strong></em></span></p><p><span style="color: #000000"><em><strong>At will,<span style="color: #000000"> add </span></strong><span style="color: #000000">any 3 of the following<strong>:</strong> </span>Major Image, Produce Flame, Putrify Food/Water, Change Self, Invisibility, Fire Bolt or Ray of Frost, Mirror Image, Levitate, Heat/Chill Metal, Stinking Cloud, Dimension Door. </em></span></p><p><span style="color: #000000"><em><strong>+3 from the following list, 3 times per day: </strong>Wall of Fire or Ice, Fireball or Icestorm, Phantasmal Killer, Lightning Bolt, Cure/Cause Disease, Dispel Magic, Locate/Obscure Object, Animate Dead, Cure/Cause Serious Wounds </em></span></p><p><span style="color: #000000"><em><strong>Resistances & Immunities:</strong></em></span></p><p><span style="color: #000000"><em><strong>Immunity to:</strong> non-magic weapons, silver/silvered weapons, enchantment/charm spells & effects, illusion spells & effects, poison, natural and magical fire, natural and magical cold, natural lightning. </em></span></p><p><span style="color: #000000"><em><strong>Resistance [Half Damage]:</strong> magical lightning, magic force/energy, acid</em></span></p><p><span style="color: #000000"><em><strong>Full Damage:</strong> magic weapons, cold iron/cold iron weapons, spells and effects (as from magic items) that specifically deal with extra-planar beings and/or fiends of the lower planes specifically.</em></span></p><p><span style="color: #000000"><em></em></span></p><p><span style="color: #000000"></span></p><p><span style="color: #000000">This probably needs a spin off thread...</span><span style="color: #000000"></span></p><p><span style="color: #000000"></span><span style="color: #000000">Read more: </span><a href="http://www.enworld.org/forum/showthread.php?358433-MM-Excerpt-Bone-Devil/page7#ixzz3B2wem4pD" target="_blank">http://www.enworld.org/forum/showthread.php?358433-MM-Excerpt-Bone-Devil/page7#ixzz3B2wem4pD</a><span style="color: #000000"></span></p><p><span style="color: #000000"></span></p></blockquote><p><span style="color: #000000"></span></p><p><span style="color: #000000"></span></p><p><span style="color: #000000">The above was all posted in the Bone Devil preview thread in answer to those saying the Bone Devil is boring and needed powers...which, I agree, devils should have. The most vocal complaint of course being mostly "WotC should have done this for me"...which I do not agree with. So I threw this together for those who believe themselves incapable or unwilling to do it themselves.</span></p><p> <span style="color: #000000"></span></p><p><span style="color: #000000">I'm thinking suggested groupings of powers might be useful with each specific devil...but if you want, say, a Barbed devil trying to work his way up the ladder and specializing in illusion to manipulate mortals into temptation/turn evil...another, maybe, is all about wreaking despair by poisoning and destroying food supplies...and then you can have hordes of "soldier" types who just do the Produce flame, Fireball 1/day kinda "heavy hitters"...but they're all still LESSER [specifically, Barbed] Devils. Opens up lots of doors for diabolic personalities/npcs/plot hooks with what were previously basic "fodder" devil types...moreso for the Greater devil ranks.</span></p><p> <span style="color: #000000"></span></p><p><span style="color: #000000">The same applies to those complaining about the dragon's lack of magical abilities...and though we haven't seen them yet, a general "What X types of Demons can do..." will probably be interesting to come up with our own.</span></p><p><span style="color: #000000"></span></p><p><span style="color: #000000">Taken further, we can use this thread for whatever you want: Giants, Genies, Angels...any category of critter that will require some "general/all X can Y..." powers.</span></p><p><span style="color: #000000"></span></p><p><span style="color: #000000">Questions. Comments. Thoughts. Likes/Dislikes.</span></p><p><span style="color: #000000">Have at ye! This is just a fun thought exercise/creativity thread. Go nuts!</span></p><p><span style="color: #000000"></span></p><p><span style="color: #000000"></span></p><p>[/QUOTE]</p>
[QUOTE="steeldragons, post: 6366109, member: 92511"] [COLOR=#000000][I][IMG]http://www.enworld.org/forum/images/misc/quote_icon.png[/IMG] Originally Posted by steeldragons [URL="http://www.enworld.org/forum/showthread.php?p=6365652#post6365652"][IMG]http://www.enworld.org/forum/images/buttons/viewpost-right.png[/IMG][/URL] That is disappointing to hear. Well, nothing else to do about it then...lessee... [SIZE=3][B]Lesser Devils[/B][/SIZE] [B]All Lesser Devils automatically: Detect Magic, Detect Invisibility, Tongues At will, [/B][COLOR=#ff0000]any 3 of the following[/COLOR][B]:[/B] Detect Thoughts, Minor Image, Produce Flame, [COLOR=#FF0000]Cause Fear, Putrify Food/Water. [/COLOR] [B]+3 from the following list:[/B] Change Self; Invisibility; Fire Bolt or Ray of Frost; Darkness Sphere; Mirror Image; Levitate; [COLOR=#ff0000]Heat/Chill Metal [doesn't work on cold iron]; Stinking Cloud[/COLOR] [B]+1 of the following [I]once per day[/I]: [/B]Wall of Fire or Ice, Fireball or Icestorm, Phantasmal Killer, Dimension Door, Major Image, Lightning Bolt [COLOR=#ff0000][B]Resistances & Immunities:[/B] [B]Immunity to:[/B][/COLOR] non-magic weapons, silver/silvered weapons, enchantment/charm spells & effects, poison, natural fire, natural cold. [COLOR=#ff0000][B]Resistance [Half Damage]:[/B] [/COLOR]magical fire, magical cold, natural lightning [COLOR=#ff0000][B]Full Damage:[/B] [/COLOR]magic weapons, cold iron/cold iron weapons, magic force/energy (e.g. magic missile), magical lightning, acid mhm..mhm..yep. All fixed. [EDIT: reviews. sees need to amend/stipulate times per day. added with emphasis /EDIT] [/I] [/COLOR] [COLOR=#000000][I] [SIZE=3][B]Greater Devils[/B][SIZE=2] (off the top of my head: Malebranche/"Horned", Ice and Pit Fiends...but there might be others I don't know/recall at the moment)[/SIZE][/SIZE] [B]All Greater Devils automatically:[/B] Detect Magic, Detect Invisibility, Tongues, [I]Cause Fear, Darkness Sphere, Detect Thoughts[/I][B] At will,[COLOR=#000000] add [/COLOR][/B][COLOR=#000000]any 3 of the following[B]:[/B] [/COLOR]Major Image, Produce Flame, Putrify Food/Water, Change Self, Invisibility, Fire Bolt or Ray of Frost, Mirror Image, Levitate, Heat/Chill Metal, Stinking Cloud, Dimension Door. [B]+3 from the following list, 3 times per day: [/B]Wall of Fire or Ice, Fireball or Icestorm, Phantasmal Killer, Lightning Bolt, Cure/Cause Disease, Dispel Magic, Locate/Obscure Object, Animate Dead, Cure/Cause Serious Wounds [B]Resistances & Immunities:[/B] [B]Immunity to:[/B] non-magic weapons, silver/silvered weapons, enchantment/charm spells & effects, illusion spells & effects, poison, natural and magical fire, natural and magical cold, natural lightning. [B]Resistance [Half Damage]:[/B] magical lightning, magic force/energy, acid [B]Full Damage:[/B] magic weapons, cold iron/cold iron weapons, spells and effects (as from magic items) that specifically deal with extra-planar beings and/or fiends of the lower planes specifically. [/I] [/COLOR] [COLOR=#000000]This probably needs a spin off thread...[/COLOR][COLOR=#000000] [/COLOR][COLOR=#000000]Read more: [/COLOR][URL]http://www.enworld.org/forum/showthread.php?358433-MM-Excerpt-Bone-Devil/page7#ixzz3B2wem4pD[/URL][COLOR=#000000] [/quote] The above was all posted in the Bone Devil preview thread in answer to those saying the Bone Devil is boring and needed powers...which, I agree, devils should have. The most vocal complaint of course being mostly "WotC should have done this for me"...which I do not agree with. So I threw this together for those who believe themselves incapable or unwilling to do it themselves. I'm thinking suggested groupings of powers might be useful with each specific devil...but if you want, say, a Barbed devil trying to work his way up the ladder and specializing in illusion to manipulate mortals into temptation/turn evil...another, maybe, is all about wreaking despair by poisoning and destroying food supplies...and then you can have hordes of "soldier" types who just do the Produce flame, Fireball 1/day kinda "heavy hitters"...but they're all still LESSER [specifically, Barbed] Devils. Opens up lots of doors for diabolic personalities/npcs/plot hooks with what were previously basic "fodder" devil types...moreso for the Greater devil ranks. The same applies to those complaining about the dragon's lack of magical abilities...and though we haven't seen them yet, a general "What X types of Demons can do..." will probably be interesting to come up with our own. Taken further, we can use this thread for whatever you want: Giants, Genies, Angels...any category of critter that will require some "general/all X can Y..." powers. Questions. Comments. Thoughts. Likes/Dislikes. Have at ye! This is just a fun thought exercise/creativity thread. Go nuts! [/COLOR] [/QUOTE]
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