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<blockquote data-quote="fba827" data-source="post: 5190464" data-attributes="member: 807"><p>i am making this particular suggestion in 4e terms since this question was posted in the 4e discussion. however , it could apply in some varient form to other editions...</p><p></p><p>warlocks, infernal warlocks to be exact. When they make their pact for power, while this aspect is generally glossed over for PCs, for NPCs the warlock had to agree to something.</p><p></p><p>1. Warlock communes with devils, seeking power</p><p>2. Powerful devil agrees to it in exchange for favor</p><p>3. Favor ranges from a) do x, y, and z which will let Powerful Devil's lesser underling come to the mortal plane (be it through summoning or some other type of ritual, or letting the devil possess someone that the person has to get/restrain/etc.</p><p>4. warlock does his part and gets powers from the devil, but has to keep doing things in order to keep getting power</p><p></p><p>Repeat on separate individual levels with several warlocks (each not necessarily knowing about the other) and you have many lesser devils all working for a bigger devil running around on the mortal plane.</p><p></p><p>Some of these lesser devils have cults formed around them (again, these cults do not necessarily know about the other devils or other cults, just the one lesser devil they worship) and they help their devil do its plans</p><p></p><p>Thus, the cultists are more worship and obey oriented, the warlocks are more transport method. (or you could mix some warlocks in with the cults and so on, or use a mixture)</p><p></p><p></p><p>Anyway, just rambling thoughts off the top of my head.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="fba827, post: 5190464, member: 807"] i am making this particular suggestion in 4e terms since this question was posted in the 4e discussion. however , it could apply in some varient form to other editions... warlocks, infernal warlocks to be exact. When they make their pact for power, while this aspect is generally glossed over for PCs, for NPCs the warlock had to agree to something. 1. Warlock communes with devils, seeking power 2. Powerful devil agrees to it in exchange for favor 3. Favor ranges from a) do x, y, and z which will let Powerful Devil's lesser underling come to the mortal plane (be it through summoning or some other type of ritual, or letting the devil possess someone that the person has to get/restrain/etc. 4. warlock does his part and gets powers from the devil, but has to keep doing things in order to keep getting power Repeat on separate individual levels with several warlocks (each not necessarily knowing about the other) and you have many lesser devils all working for a bigger devil running around on the mortal plane. Some of these lesser devils have cults formed around them (again, these cults do not necessarily know about the other devils or other cults, just the one lesser devil they worship) and they help their devil do its plans Thus, the cultists are more worship and obey oriented, the warlocks are more transport method. (or you could mix some warlocks in with the cults and so on, or use a mixture) Anyway, just rambling thoughts off the top of my head. [/QUOTE]
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