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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Kerrz" data-source="post: 2384454" data-attributes="member: 22914">I'm interested in creating a warrior-bard type of character in the classical tradition. I can't decide if it would be best to just create a verbose/skillful barbarian, or if I should go through the process of finding a Bard variant with no spellcasting.I am thinking the Savage Bard variant from UA - it comes natively without scroll reading/writing abilities and fits better with the warrior-bard than just a normal bard would.Also, I am reading through some other suggestions to convert spellcasting classes (like bard/ranger/paladin) and one I saw was "Every time your spellcasting class would have gained extra spellcasting abilities, give it a bonus feat instead." Perhaps a combination of those two would lend to something you could live with. Failing that, maybe upping the HD to d8's and giving a bonus feat every two times that the bard would gain spellcasting abilities (since a bonus feat every level seems a bit extreme.)I can't think of any class features that could be added off the top of my head in place though. Anyway, give a shout back.</blockquote>