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<blockquote data-quote="JediGamemaster" data-source="post: 6728532" data-attributes="member: 6802285">you know after sleeping on it, I wonder why a rogue with a 2 handed 2d6 dex weapon is soo bad...I took 5th 9th and 13th level and did some math....5th dagger 1d4+3d6&nbsp; short sword 4d6&nbsp; rapier 1d8+3D6&nbsp; the 3d6 average is 10.5 even the d8 is average 4.5... 3/4 the damage is sneak attack not weapon... give them a 2d6 greatsword and that goes form average dagger damage of 13 to 18...&nbsp; 9th dagger 1d4+5d6&nbsp; short sword 6d6&nbsp; rapier 1d8+6D6&nbsp; the 5d6 average is 17.5 even the d8 is average 4.5... 4/5 the damage is sneak attack not weapon... give them a 2d6 greatsword and that goes form average dagger damage of 20 to 25...&nbsp; 13th dagger 1d4+7d6&nbsp; short sword 8d6&nbsp; rapier 1d8+7D6&nbsp; the 7d6 average is 24.5 even the d8 is average 4.5... 5/6 the damage is sneak attack not weapon... give them a 2d6 greatsword and that goes form average dagger damage of 27 to 32.....the difference between&nbsp; doing a d3 damage 1-3 and 2d6 damage 2-12 (I think that's the biggest range of weapon damage) is really not that big of an issue when you start adding d6's to either... since the rogue is already adding an average of 3.5 per two levels to damage as you go up in level the weapon matters less and less...</blockquote>

[QUOTE="JediGamemaster, post: 6728532, member: 6802285"] you know after sleeping on it, I wonder why a rogue with a 2 handed 2d6 dex weapon is soo bad... I took 5th 9th and 13th level and did some math.... 5th dagger 1d4+3d6 short sword 4d6 rapier 1d8+3D6 the 3d6 average is 10.5 even the d8 is average 4.5... 3/4 the damage is sneak attack not weapon... give them a 2d6 greatsword and that goes form average dagger damage of 13 to 18... 9th dagger 1d4+5d6 short sword 6d6 rapier 1d8+6D6 the 5d6 average is 17.5 even the d8 is average 4.5... 4/5 the damage is sneak attack not weapon... give them a 2d6 greatsword and that goes form average dagger damage of 20 to 25... 13th dagger 1d4+7d6 short sword 8d6 rapier 1d8+7D6 the 7d6 average is 24.5 even the d8 is average 4.5... 5/6 the damage is sneak attack not weapon... give them a 2d6 greatsword and that goes form average dagger damage of 27 to 32..... the difference between doing a d3 damage 1-3 and 2d6 damage 2-12 (I think that's the biggest range of weapon damage) is really not that big of an issue when you start adding d6's to either... since the rogue is already adding an average of 3.5 per two levels to damage as you go up in level the weapon matters less and less... [/QUOTE]

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