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Message: <blockquote data-quote="mach1.9pants" data-source="post: 4765744" data-attributes="member: 55946">The skills available for classes seem pretty random in the classes that skills are not a big part of their shtick. Like why does ftr get healing (yes you can say that they have been in lots of fights so have picked it up, but then that goes for all adventurers, these aren't 0 lvl ADnDers!).But IMC the guys can choose whatever background they want to get the skills as class skills from the Char Builder...FR (even though we aren't), scales or the other one. Means that the guys can pretty much get what they want.I also have no probs with a class not having 'ability score' appropriate class skills. We have found that most skill checks are against DCs, rather than opposed (stealth the big exception) and the revised DCs mean that as long a you are trained or you max the skills ability you are fine (again heavy armoured PCs being another exception). There is not real need for players to max the ability and train the skill to be effective. Certainly no need to focus on the skill, skill focus was a common choice for feat in our 3E campaign, not 4E.</blockquote>