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<blockquote data-quote="FormerlyHemlock" data-source="post: 6551471" data-attributes="member: 6787650">Yes of course. But I don't run my game that way. I strive to maximize player agency, which also means &quot;don't arbitrarily change the rules just to kill Exstis&quot; even though I CAN change the rules at any time, and sometimes do. But the middle of a fight is not a good time for that kind of thing[1].I was just pointing out that it is still possible to miss a PC when you've got advantage from him being unconscious.[1] Well, sort of a fight. One of the other PCs was helping the downed PC, hammering the NPCs with nonlethal blows, the other PC was just gloating and using his illusion magic to mock the downed PC (&quot;I told you so!&quot; in a little girl's voice) for enraging the captive hobgoblins into attacking him in the first place. It was a race between the hobgoblins and the barbarian to see if the hobgoblins could finish killing the cleric before the barbarian knocked them unconscious, and the hobgoblins kept whiffing. It would have been a real jerk move on my part to say, &quot;Okay, no, Exstis, you're dead. They killed you automatically.&quot;</blockquote>

[QUOTE="FormerlyHemlock, post: 6551471, member: 6787650"] Yes of course. But I don't run my game that way. I strive to maximize player agency, which also means "don't arbitrarily change the rules just to kill Exstis" even though I CAN change the rules at any time, and sometimes do. But the middle of a fight is not a good time for that kind of thing[1]. I was just pointing out that it is still possible to miss a PC when you've got advantage from him being unconscious. [1] Well, sort of a fight. One of the other PCs was helping the downed PC, hammering the NPCs with nonlethal blows, the other PC was just gloating and using his illusion magic to mock the downed PC ("I told you so!" in a little girl's voice) for enraging the captive hobgoblins into attacking him in the first place. It was a race between the hobgoblins and the barbarian to see if the hobgoblins could finish killing the cleric before the barbarian knocked them unconscious, and the hobgoblins kept whiffing. It would have been a real jerk move on my part to say, "Okay, no, Exstis, you're dead. They killed you automatically." [/QUOTE]

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